Is this really true about "Middle East" traditional culture/religion?

It took 1500 years to understand "terrorism" from those books (however their roots are same Mr. Abraham, means all those books were press of the same family... Father, son, uncle, nephew etc. the chain ignited by Mr. Abraham > Asmael/Isaac > etc...) not important which one exactly.. And yes, you're still talking about different ways of understanding (diff. interpret of holy books), isn't it illogical for you really?

> I've asked to Saudi sheiks and they were saying:
No our way is true and rest is doing wrong. Actually bla bla...
> I've asked to Lebanese people and they were saying:
No our way is true and rest is doing wrong. Actually bla bla...
> I've asked to Syrian/Iraqi/Indonesian even Eritrean Muslims and eventually I've got the same answer:
No our way is true and rest is doing wrong. Actually bla bla...

And hereby I'm asking here in this thread: I'm getting the same answer: There's interpret differences; it's not easily understandable; they understood and/or applying it wrong; it's whatever...What kind of book is it, still not being truly studied by whole humanity in 1500 years? If God want to say something, do you believe he express it with "spherical words?" which may easily "misunderstand" by his mankind?

Human is bugged, or book is bugged, or God is bugged... But there's a problem it's clear. It shouldn't take 1500 years to understand something that mentioned "spoken clearly to the mankind" by its God.

Anyway... I smell some fail. But I'm just a researcher, a student. I don't have any "side" nor "offensive" behavior against any of them at all.


/ADD: Dear, if you don't want to discuss here, you're free to leave my thread anytime. But I don't think that you've right to request for close. Be some gentle please.

 

it has been said that most of the world`s muslims are not terrorists. But most of the terrorists of the world are muslims

 

Can we smile to this topic?

 

Who knows 1 imam bring it to me from MAKKAH which is you religions capitol ^^
he thinks i can be converted after reading some ultra super text

 

I don't want "clearly" to see this thread being a flame-hell... Please remove your kind comments if you're planning to flame or whatever it is... Just discussion in "respect limits".

/ps: Just a simple warn... Nothing specific.

 

Im talking because i have enough facts. Also i know how history goes and if i were u i wouldnt suggest to others to "read" history cuz as i see u know nothing.There are lots kinds of terrorists and one of them is the Islamic.Dont talk about the bomber suiciders cuz u know nothing about how their life is and how they grown up since they were kids.they were brainwashed since the first time.Media is media and every media is doing their job, none forced u to believe them and none forced u to join this thread and now asking for someone to close it.u can simply get out.

 

No one is flaming @_@

They are merely debating... about the difference of opinion... I guess...

 

No hun it didnt took 1500 years to understand terrorism its something that u cant possibly understand, u can get facts u can watch documentrys u can even ask terrorists but u will never understand it.
And yet ur here so hardsh tryn to if u want to understand something u should clear ur mind from judgment apperantly ur picture of muslims are interrupted with picture of terrorist for u, u dont see two seperate things u see them the same..
And u can ask who ever u want not only from middle east backgrounds but from any sort of background and ask them wich way is the best way they will defend the ONLY way they know and they have grown up with...
To understand everything that u need to be more then just a researcher. There is no human in world to understand it all, how can there be? i mean for all we know it all with religion can be lie can be true none knows 100% so none fully understands it .. Its just what it is.. Even tho its all kinda related to eachother with religion leave the religion out of the comparement with terrorism.. becose thats not ur place to compare if so then as i said before u should do some research about ALL religious and go back wayyyy back in history not just muslims acts but all others and compare what religions has caused.

And yea i have rights to request this thread to be closed becose if u opened thread to flame on one religion even tho u didnt intend to, this thread is sort of flame to one religion (alot of 12 years old play this game read this threads and are going to be involved into some discussion that they DO not understand ) . I have muslim friends that are offended everyday by the same people as u, becose they cant seperate 2 things from eachother.. Sure there are some muslims that are terrorists trust me THERE ARE some chrystians to and some satan worshipers and whatever, but nothing is out in media as MUslims are terrorists, And that is wrong. I my self am journalist and i m ashamed when i see or read about something like this where they put it out there the same way u do.

 

Dear amlees,

Ofc there are RADICAL Jewish, Christian and muslims. The point here do you know any RADICAL CRISTIAN or JEWISH group that killed muslims just because they are not believing the same religion ?

 

Reading ur kind of "theory", ur telling that we cant understand and in the end ,u end up knowing every thing that we cant understand.What i know is that there are lots kinds of terrorisms but Muslim makes the biggest difference to me. You always have a second option by ignoring those 12 years old kids. Also u must learn the difference between request and suggest.
anyway my point to all this is that :

We're in the 21th century and people still believe in religion. Evolution fail;

 

Thank you for answering, let me tell something please.

1- If this religions or books (all, not only Islam) were sent to mankind for their understanding and assist them to become a good person and to find true way of living on earth and later. How come *they* designed this book "impossible to understand by human being"? Isn't it illogical?...

2- 12 +/- childrens/teenagers are watching much worse of it on various kind of media every single day, even hour. This thread is at least help them to understand the terms of what all those dumb are talking in their TV. Another case is:

This forum is created for serious talks. And this is the base of all actual cases on news channels since long time, which is "very actual" serious subject that we can discuss about.
Hereby: You don't have right to request close for this thread.

+ I didn't flame, I won't let it be, I warned already. Nothing about intentions. Please don't take the subject different directions.

 

well if u do have ur facts right u would understand it better then, yes exactly there are diffirent kinds of terrorists and yes one part of them happens to be muslims BUT, Media today makes it bigger then it is so thats how people unknowledged gets feed with facts and makes accusations of ALL muslims wich is not right, do u see the other kinds out there talked about as much as muslim one? No ofc not. And its sad, and what is more sad is that people that has no clue about anything of this hear on tv and trash other people becose of their religion when yet those rest of muslims has nothing to do with the terrorists. And thats what i m saying i m defending those people that gets trashed everyday of people unknowledged and not educated well enough to talk about this stuff. And yes people should read more to understand more instead of just talking what they think they know.

 

They are reading since 1500 years dear, and I saw what they understood by result at 9/11 and many more, in this very respective 1500 years...

 

Agreeable.

 

Everyone has its own point of view to this topic and the only way to avoid it is just to ignore it. Ppl here are like debating about this subject.About media, its doing its job cuz behind it lots of stuff are happening .About all this topic i think that Islamic terrorism is far from a religion matter.islam has had an essentially political character from its very foundation to the present day.An intimate association between religion and politics, between power and cult, marks a principal distinction between Islam and other religions.In traditional Islam and therefore also in resurgent fundamentalist Islam, God is the sole source of sovereignty. God is the head of the state. The state is God's state. The army is God's army. The treasury is God's treasury, and the enemy, of course, is God's enemy ,and this is so but so wrong.

I respect what u say and I'm not intending offending any1. whatever i say is just my own point of view.

 

1- If this religions or books (all, not only Islam) were sent to mankind for their understanding and assist them to become a good person and to find true way of living on earth and later. How come *they* designed this book "impossible to understand by human being"? Isn't it illogical?...

Well its a good question but then again, how come then if we say in procentage that 30 % of people never read those books of their religion (today many people dont belive in religions ) and take 50 % of them did whiles 20% has missunderstood it totally, Then my question is How come those 50% of people on earth has understood their religios book in i wont say correct way but in Good way, whiles those 20% has totally missread it/missunderstood it has translate it on their own way?
If its so impossible to understand why is there more people that understood it in good way then bad way?

In muslims there are 2 sort of muslims and their books are similar yet diffirent translated, so How did that happen?

There are many questions. But i understand what u mean with urs, and trust me i have been thinking of it so many times,, I can only guess that people read things diffirent then others, what means to me this doesnt mean the same to u and so on.

 

1-Translated from wich language to which language ??
2-Who told you that there is two kind of muslims ??
3-How old are you (prob. 2500+) to say half of the world is NOT understanding also we cant understand them..
4-Did you ever went to a muslim country to see their social behavior.
5-Do you think muslims at Europe/Us are behaving like they are in their own country??

 

Omg u didnt just say that.. Well learn the history Those 3 religions have been fighting over wich one is gonna rule trough centuries, so yea i have heard christians killing group of jewish or muslims to try to get them to belive in same religion...
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Now u really offended me and this is what i meant that u have to get ur facts streight if u wanna open such a "serious topic"
1.st i m a muslim my self( even tho i m not a beliver ) so yea i know there are two kinds one are shia and one are more modern muslims that they are called Sunni. 2 Muslim religions VERY diffirent. Sunni womans dont need to wear those things on head and cover their body at all. And i m from a europe a little country that is muslim country but not even close to the middle east.
2.d i m older then u wich i can by far see.
3d. I m internationall journalist so yea i been in both middle east countrys and seen how they behave and the muslim countrys that arent even close to middle east and seen how they behave ( they are humands stil) And i got to say they dont behave any more diffirent then how people behave in other parts of "poor countrys"
4. and i think everyone adjust to where they live or atleast should.. sure some people are more wild then others but at end of they it doesnt make them less of PEOPLE! and what does that question got to do with the terrorism if i might ask?

And oh i never said half of world is NOT understanding u should read twice before u post an answer.. i said half of world has read their bible or koran or whatever book they have in their religion and understood it as it supposed to be, wich mean shalf of world isnt killing people becose their "religion told them" whiles MAYBE 20% has missunderstood and translated book on their own way hence to why they go and use religion as excuse for killing others....

 

May you did not noticed amlees, but we are talking about last 200-300 years. This when Western civilizations begun to improve the Productivity / Wealth and started to act like SOCIALIZED community. At the same timeline muslims were trying to learn how to be an expert about pedophilia / woman abuse / slavery / ignorancy

I am not saying that other religions are perfect. But they learned well to say STFU to religion while muslims are still trying to impose this THING as a religion of peace to whole world.

You may have muslim friends dear, but you don't know what is to live their culture at their very own lands. So please just try to listen ppl here are saying something bcs they experienced something..