ABG leather set evasion nerfed?

Where has our evasion gone? Full ABG leather set baseline evasion now = 2026, just a couple of days ago I was pretty sure it was 2.8kish? Anyone else notice the change?

06/13 EDIT:
The Evasion "Fix" is the topic of discussion here, specifically to Sins; I dont have a ranger to know the effect on their class. Noted on the patch made on 06/11, the bonus to Sin's evasion has dropped by several hundred points (approx. 800 points for me). This thread is currently discussing the viability of the changes to our class.

Please add your thoughts to the fairness of this "Fix." Discuss your experiences thus far. And most importantly, consider your thoughts before posting.


06/14 EDIT:
So most have agreed with me that our high burst damage saves our hide, no pun intended ^^. However majority of those who've replied to this thread have had little care to the big fix in our evasion.

Yes, this makes assassins even more tactical now, and balanced in terms of gameplay. However, I personally feel that we've taken a much larger hit in the previous fixes than most other classes. If I didn't enjoy the tactical aspects of playing a versatile soldier, I definetly would've been incline to play my gladiator again. However, that's always been the best part of the assassin, the challenge and versitility of playing one.

-Rumptious, Elyos

 

more likely fixed.

 

Fixed. *sigh*

I just saw on new update today 06/12, swapped main and off hnd dmg on weapon, also evasion bonus is no longer applied to assassins. Assassins will be easy targets now. 2k evasion = worthless, and to socket all +17 evasion MS = mute dmg.

But it's the way it is. Not QQ'ing, just discussing.

[edit]
Full ABG plate Glad with MCD polearm combined = 2.5k parry, and that's with full attack socket/crit socket, and that equipment setup gives them roughly 2.5k acc with foods. Strong def and strong attack, plus accurate attacks.

In comparison of those stats to our current stats, that leaves much to be desired when in combat 1v1 with other melee classes.

 

bump for u this happen with the last update we was nerfed AGAIN xD, before update i was with 2.6k now i have 1.8k what we can do with that too low evasion? and the lower accuracy that i have seen is 2,1k lol

 

What you can do with that low evasion is learn how to play assassin.

 

Evasion's capped anyways. + you still have evade skills + resist skills, don't be so greedy.

 

I would call the evasion fixed and not nerfed.

 

Take it from him. He knows ;D

 

lol if u know the min. of eva u need for this stat work in this server is 2100+ and u know that evasion is the only decent def of a assa? might u need to learn how work a assa.

 

and since when assassins need def?

 

you mean besides the fact that you have a buff that increases eva by 300 and 1 by 800? /lol Stop being spoiled by private server bugs.

 

everyone wanted retail function so this is becoming new server. So lets do some homework =)

 

How to play as an Assassin? That's more than solidified. However, with evasion base of 2026 with ABG gear, and no acc, let's see... MS socket all Evasion with +17, you come up with 2600ish, including accessories. Base ACC on my glad WITHOUT socketing ACC and food is already at 2500, meaning less than 10% evasion chance with full Evasion MS socket if I were to go head to head with a glad geared as mine. That leaves my dmg mute, and gives me a 10% chance to evade?

Focused evasion for 1 guaranteed evasion which needs to be used in 5s. And then depending on which stigma route you go, sensory boost is the only other evasion boost. Yes, 800 evasion for 12s. Those are the only two guaranteed evasion skills we have that can be used on command. Resist skills? MR is not the topic of discussion here.

Unless the evasion formula has changed, 2100 evasion base with accessories and abg leather gear has no chance to evade against the current base accuracy of most melee. And for those who socket Accuracy? +27 points per MS while evasion MS of +17? You'd have to socket 2 Evasion MS just to make up for a melee class socketing 1 Acc MS. That's absurd.

To Avarre, you've never played an assassin? The 300 evasion boost can only be used on successful evasion, therefore without socketing for evasion, that skill is nullified at this time. This leaves us only one true evasion skill boost, and that's sensory boost if you got that stigma tree, lasting 12s.

As always, our high burst dmg has been the only true defense assassins have, and now with the debuff on the two latest patch, it's our only defense.

 

thats not ragnarok online dude...

find any good assassin with evade build in retail ill give u a potatoe

 

My point. No one makes an evasion build because of the broken system of evasion itself. And our evasion was compensated with a "bonus" due to that broken system, however that's now in the past.

 

So...what is it that you're crying about?
You do know that the high evasion on assassins was a bug, not a "compensation"?
Unless you're asking devs to fix what you think is broken in retail...

 

Apparently you've never played assassin before. FE much?

 

still don't make sense, evasion is capped u need only to go over 300 of the attacker, you are not a tanker so learn to play your class... Base Evasion + boost skills + Resist should be enough.

i tried going over 3k damage sucked.
i took the Ablazed advice gone to full attack, now all you need to do is work those mouse to click properly in combat and your all set. also another tip is movement if you get what i mean from this.

your not meant to stand there and kill everyone on path like it used to.

ps. you can always use your ABG to rangers.

 

You speak as if FE is the answer to everything. And no, I don't FE much FYI. FE was made for critical moments and should thus be conserved for those times. But you FE much apparently, even against auto attack? If so, brownie points to you sir!

Narrowminded much? Seems kids always cry at the thought of discussion, you're no exception. This isn't retail, this is a pvp server. And you expect balance to come without discussion? Unless you duel newcomers only, having a full abg sin at this time 1v1 with glad/temp abg set with good pvp skills = close to impossible to win, and that's due to imbalance, not skills.

Evasion hard caps at 30% or 300 pts above attacker acc, yes. However you cannot achieve that cap at the current status we're in, and if you did with sensory boost, that lasts 12 sec, but again that requires a stigma chain to use. Even if you socketed all evasion MS, as I stated previously, evasion would be a near useless attribute and you'll have butter knives as weapon. And please read over previous posts before posting replies, if you did, you would note that my Gladiator with fused PA and acc food has about 2.5k acc without ACC MS. Try evading against that with a base 2.1k evasion.

 

then move... like i said, movement...movement to add evasion... kitting do people really need to teach you how to play?