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An issue needing addressed: Imbalance in PvP

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Shiverz, Feb 21, 2013.

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  1. Shiverz

    Shiverz New Member

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    I've noticed more and more recently, that pvp is dying. No, that doesn't mean there is any, that means that it isn't worth anyone's time to do it. I play on the lumiel server on the asmo side, and I can tell you that I refuse to pvp in Gelkmaros due to the elyos zerging, and I am getting to a point where that will just be no pvp because of elyos zerging.

    There needs to be a change in numbers, and not that a GM can do anything, but I think anyone can agree that the numbers are really uneven.


    So here's the question: Why play an elyos? Why play an asmo?

    Elyos: More people, friends, look human-esque. So what you're telling me is people play elyos for vanity's sake and not to enjoy the game?

    Asmodian: Way less people (seriously, Pandaemonium is a graveyard), look nothing like a human.


    I guess in conclusion, some people will come here and be like, "Oh, just another QQ thread", where some people might see what it actually is.

    I won't say asmodians are innocent. There are a few guilds that ruin PvP constantly. (BR TheAngelsOfDeath BR, AMICII, PIRATES)

    But on the elyos side, there are so many you can name (Cardinals, Aethereal, PiscoSour, AllianceHUN, etc.)

    Just a thought.
     
  2. Pollito

    Pollito New Member

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    you can try pvp in other place... like ingg tiamarant herion, and don't stay in gelk waiting for pvp xD......
     
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  3. noirrelic

    noirrelic Getting there

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    Why don't you move over to Siel? It would seem that we have the exact opposite predicament than Lumiel, whereas there are little Elyos compared to Asmo. That and Asmos zerging almost everywhere. But then again, it's hard not to zerg, isn't it?

    BTW, this is just personal opinion. Doesn't mean that all Asmos on Siel zerg, so don't get offended. If you do, then that sucks for you.
     
  4. shouji13

    shouji13 Giblet Gravy~

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    are you crazy o__O i play elyos and asmo on siel and i can guarantee you elyos waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outnumber the asmos and both sides zerg regardless =/
     
  5. Asmodoom

    Asmodoom Getting there

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    Really, because I play asmos because I always play the darker race when I play games and we always seem to be pretty balanced.
    You just came over at the wrong time.

    We always seem to push the zerg back and enjoy ourselves while we do.
     
  6. Akikaze

    Akikaze Elohim, Essaim...I implore you Forum Legend

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    Your argument became invalid the moment you mention that sentence essentially. I have dual race account and can tell you how many people is in Gelkmaros on both Elyos and Asmodian side when I check for PvP. I can tell you that majority of the time, there is more Asmodians than Elyos players in Gelkmaros. Elyos usually average 5-20 in Gelk whereas Asmodians are 10-35. There might be a more general population of Elyos players but doesn't mean all of them is in Gelkmaros zerging.

    You know you're not forced to play Asmodians. I know there are people that admire the race's design while others avoid it at all cost. You were given a choice when creating a character to choose which race, when you've chosen Asmodian and deemed it unworthy, why didn't you consider remaking the character or another account for Elyos....

    If you do not like going to Gelkmaros for PvP, it is understandable. There is always Tiamaratra's Eye, often having 1-10 players on that map looking for PvP. Asmodian players somehow can't get out of their comfort zone and insists to go to Gelk (and then complain).
     
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  7. Chaos-Bomb

    Chaos-Bomb Meme Dealer

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    I can tell this thread is gonna go no where.

    inb4 the close
     
  8. Gh0st

    Gh0st Noob Assassin Forum Legend

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    You also zerging and camping, so no need to complain (Without saying about obelisk's place pulls and spam fear).

    Only those?! lol, add like other 25 legions.

    Yeap, push with zerg from 40-50 people to kill 20 people, then camp the wind stream, and all possible ways to gelk (Not even talking about kisk camp).


    Seems for me, after couple same threads that Ely only zerg on Lumiel :D
    God bless Ely side :p
     
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  9. Chaos-Bomb

    Chaos-Bomb Meme Dealer

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    yo-ho-ho to zergmaros we go :)

    *eats Wasteland Drakie candy and trolls*
     
  10. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    >_> I also have a dual race account idk maybe i play at different times but there are almost always more elyos online than asmodian.
     
  11. Testify

    Testify "I’m necessary evil." Forum Legend

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    let me get some pop corn and some diet coke .. ima watch this new thread.. oh wait, this is relatively the same to the old ones that died. :)

    Good Luck!
     
  12. Clubs

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    Pvp get's worse with each patch, we ***** and QQ about it then we get used to it, then it gets even worse. Lately it's just been absolute and complete shit.


    All I can say is, I am primed for my pvp video, but I have no proper pvp to video. Maybe I just need to do a duel pvp video instead >.>.
     
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  13. Awoken

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    I Recently went back to Elyos on siel (it's were i started 2 years ago and made friends) then i decided to go asmodian and been there a long time to.

    But on Siel the asmo side is outnumbered.

    Like seriously Pande = ghost town and even Altgard (the new trading spot of asmos on siel) is empty as hell.

    No people to duel or hang around with.

    In the meanwhile sanctum on siel is FULL of people.

    It's kinda sad that the good old heiron pvp is completely vanished.

    Only few raids going on right there but it's dead and Elyos are only camping observatory and waiting for them.

    Even ignisson is dead as hell =) it used to be where alot of asmos were and ping pong zerg pvp was going on.

    That moved to gelkmaros now actually that's still the only active zerg pvp fest.

    I Went to tiamat eye recently and i think not many people know there are 24/7 rifts up to go there.

    I Went there with my SM and it was pretty much dead =) maybe few asmo's and few elyos.


    Important: The devs should enable or make a custom option to create 2 races again for free like before 2.5
    And wich do not require 1,500 credits to have a dual race account so people can play what they want or move over for free.
     
  14. cocosul

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    try this :D instead videos:DD

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  15. Rizenz

    Rizenz Anniel Lien Enna Forum Legend

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    Mhm I havent played much but today I logged in siel asmodian side and I was on the obelisk when the last time i clearly logged out and I was in rancora ( seems like a diff bug ). Anyways A zerg fest was camping yet again on this spot, it seems like this is happening VERY Often and maybe its about time we bump up those punishment for obelisk camping? It's getting really annoying logging in to that :(. About to change my bind spot but i really like the gelk spot since thats how you get to inggison xD
     
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    Don't you dare moving from Lumiel to Siel? we don't need anymore zergers.
     
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  17. raiden013

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    this is the reason why your statement became invalid.

    most of the time when your race say that we are zerging, its just around 20 or less people or not enough to create a full alliance, when the number of asmos are way more than us. i think the main reason why asmos do not push the elys in gelk is because they ran before even trying. i have noticed this a couple of times when i tried intimidating the asmos. i would be the only one to move forward and the asmos would back out and ran back to the Vorgaltem Scout post. there was even an instance where only 1 party wiped out a zerg because they showed their backs on us, the reason being as soon as they see one comrade die they would run away.

    people have a choice.. and race appearance is on of the factors why people choose a certain race. but you have no idea how many people would prefer the way asmos was designed. way back January 2011 me and my friends started here. all of them went to asmodae and i am the only one who went to elysea


    here is my point of view on most zergers, (including both Elys and Asmos), they have become too dependent on zerging that they do not really know how to handle a situation on their own. E.g. a fought a high ranking sin 1 v 1 as soon as my 1st hit landed and he realized that i am still alive after he used burst skills. he started running away, he didn't even tried to use survival skills to endure my burst skills. if only they knew how their classes work. then asmos would be anywhere in atrea pawning elys and there would be no need of zerging.

    and there is also a saying: when in Rome, do what the Romans do.
     
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  18. Vildiil

    Vildiil Hit em with a 100 round clip Forum Legend

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    Everyone zergs on Lumiel, its ridiculous. Having a dual race account I also see this, I zone into gelk? Elyos everywhere. Normally approximately 25-30 (And yes, I can number check) I go on elyos and zone to inggison? Asmo everywhere. Same deal, about 25-30 Go to Tia Eye? Zerg everywhere. Heiron? 15 people to kill 1 solo. Beluslan? 20 people to kill 1 solo.

    Oh open the Tiamaranta Eye it'll reduce zerging they said, followed by 50 people there too.

    I wish there were more incentives we could give to reduce zerging but unfortunately there's not much that can be done about it.

    Now, I won't go closing this thread, as thats unconstructive of me to do, and honestly it'd be fairly biased at this point since you mentioned my elyos legion (cardinals) as a bunch of zergers, when actually if you hopped ingame and on elyos you'd see the complete opposite done.
     
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  19. Badrobot

    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    Asmo dont look human? Where did that come from, they look same as ely except for the hairy back and the claws on some boots, which by the way are not visible if you wear a costume. And i do find asmodian female toons to be better looking than ely ones.

    About the zergs, siel is same.. they opened the eye of tiamaranta and now you cannot pvp there, there is a 24/7 zerg. Kind of ironic isnt it? When the eye was closed the pvp was actually more fun.
     
  20. cocosul

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    well....at last for belu/heiron zergs....is 1 way t balance it.....keep rifts up 24/7....sometimes i m stucked in belu like SOLO only bcs in heiron is not any rift up for hours....i dont care if i m zerged^^ at last 1 asmos die before me:D....but it s boring for zergers i guess...if kill me only for 2/3 hours:)))
     
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