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Bard vs Gunner vs ?

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by WeiPi, Jan 18, 2014.

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  1. WeiPi

    WeiPi New Member

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    Hi!

    Im moving over from another p server to Gamez Siel and trying to decide what to play.

    Classes ive played seriously are Cleric/Ranger/SM but I dunno what to play this time. Was hoping someone would be able to do the perks and negatives of Gunner and Bard? And maybe anything else that comes to mind?

    I have 250 ping to American servers (playing from asia) so I prob cant play Gladiator lol

    Will be donating for a full set (money isnt an issue) so no need to worry about gear.

    Thank you!
     
  2. MakerPeace

    MakerPeace The BRUTAL one

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    Gunners are stronger than Bard...so you play gunner..just like shelo..
     
  3. Stephen

    Stephen I always chill bruh

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  4. Badrobot

    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    If you got problem with ping, cleric is the best choice. It is an overall stronger class and on arbiter gear you ll be able to take out all the bards/gunners and be nearly invincible.. Ranger is the worst investment right now due to its weakness and squishiness. Even it's damage can no longer compensate for it's low hp and squishy defense. Gunner is a much better choice than ranger at the moment, but then again cleric is a much better choice than a gunner (if you know how to play). If you are looking for an easy way to earn AP and kills, then id suggest gunner but if you are looking to get serious with a class, then id suggest cleric. Up to you. I;ve been back on cleric as a secondary toon for a week or so and i can tell you gunners don't give me any problems, in fact they are easier than sins/glads as long as you got a full MR gear.
     
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  5. Stephen

    Stephen I always chill bruh

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    Are rangers really that squishy?
     
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    Ciel Chill Revolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forum Legend

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    Ill just say play what you enjoy the most :3 best advice .
     
  7. Shelo

    Shelo 无精打彩无精打彩 Forum Legend

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    thanks but, bard are OP.
     
  8. alexexe

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    u need a legion?
     
  9. Kretia

    Kretia Fabulous Pink Zombie Baguette

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    he's going on siel anyways!
     
  10. Nero

    Nero Pioneer Member Forum Legend

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    Choose gunner or sm LOL, don't play ranger class lol
     
  11. dranz248

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    Playing SM and templar isnt bad. How about trying that class.
     
  12. niyawa16

    niyawa16 ♀ Ariba Zamboanga Kita ♀

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    Ranger is the best.. :D
    but it's up to you.
     
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    Use Gunner! or .. spiritmaster Full fear Hue Hue
     
  14. niyawa16

    niyawa16 ♀ Ariba Zamboanga Kita ♀

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    Hahaha.. you make me laugh i defeat templar with hac set . i will use ABG set
     
  15. hitokirifake

    hitokirifake meeoooww....

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    plz no more gunner too many gunner in siel >.<
     
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    I'll start of by saying - there is to many gunners in the server its ridiculous.

    Anyway...

    In my opinion bard is better then gunner not just damage wise also tank wise. I have played both classes in governor gear so I'm just speaking of the experiences of playing both classes.

    players just believe gunner is 'better' then bard simply because when you play gunner all you got to do is spam random skills and let your GS proc to win I mean even some one with no experience of aion what so ever can master gunner within a hour of playing it.however with bard you got to do smart but simple combos which are extremely OP and can kill any player within seconds bard is like the magic version of the chanter if that makes sense? chanter and bard are hard class to master and understand skill wise but once you master it you can kill you any 1 especially on a 1 vs 1 battle.


    First of all bards have heals, you can run or even kite and heal your self at the same time so you don't got to stand still and take damage when healing, also they got few dot heals that heal around 500+ hp a second and a heal skill with a cool down of around 10 minutes, that removes 3 debuffs from you and heals around 1000 hp a second for 5 seconds and that's a group heal as well so it's useful if you're in a group.

    they also got a clense similar to the clerics however the bards clense cooldown is 5 seconds which is no big deal and the only down fall is that it doesn't clense 1 skill which is the gladiators root like the cleric clense does however no problem to remove the root all you got to do is use your clense + pot after or just use your teleport skill.

    bards clense can actually remove EVERY debuff of you from a spiritmaster making there dot/debuffs basically useless.

    Bard also a skill called MTV summer which increases fear resist by 650 and para resist by 500 and sleep resist by 500 also for 30 minutes oh and the cooldown is only 1 minute and nope it's not a DP skill they also got another buff called MTV autumn, which increased stumble and knock back resist by 300 and silence resist by 500.

    If you're fighting a spiritmaster use the MTV summer as they will just spam fear there fear will get resisted by the buff ( 80% of the time) unless they are smart enough to debuff it then spam fear after - However I think most of us can all agree that 99% of spiritmasters rely on fear on gamez?

    Hm what else... Oh ton of MP healing skills - Enjoy permanent MP you will never run out of MP again can also heal players MP as well (PS you can use your mana healing skill even with 0 MP as the skill cost no MP to cast).

    Bards also got a mini ud that last 12 seconds that also lowers players damage while the buff is active. Extremely useful after using your remove shock.

    They also got MP drain skills - you can easily eat 7k MP within 5 seconds - This would drain 100% MP of melee classes such as (ranger, sin gladiator, Templar and even gunner) however it won't drain 100% of the MP of mage classes seen as they usually got 10-14k MP however it will take atleast half which is helpful because mage classes skills use alot of MP especially sorcerer.

    They got silence that also does damage + drains MP and a bind (which stops physical classes from using there skills including gunner with pistols) also they got a OP debuff with a short cool down that can even remove UD & iron skin. Spiritmasters can't even debuff UD or ironskin unless they use every buff (including the DP debuff with a 30 minute CD ).

    They got a skill that lowers the enemies magic resist by 300 (very helpful against classes with MR builds) and another skill that lowers there magic suppression by 500 also a skill that lowers there movement speed...

    They also got a dot skill that does around 1000 + damage a second for 7 seconds and it does a 2x hit combo on the last second which causes twice the dot damage ( this dot skill is powerful then any of the spiritmasters dot skills damage wise).

    forgot to mention 1 of there best skills they also got a skill that can para you for 5 seconds however its a delay skill meaning the para wont be instant it activates after 8 seconds so you can easily proceed to DPS once they are paralyzed they should be dead by then if your geared up pretty good.

    They also got a op AOE dp skill that cost 2k DP and cool down is only 1 min and a other DP skill that does around 3000 fire damage instantly similar to the sorcerers "Pandemonium Focus" skill this skill is also cost 2k DP to cast and also has a 1 min cool down I use both the DP's at the same time most players die.

    They also got an aoe sleep skill that is instant however it's a close range skill similar to fear it's very helpful if you got multiply players attacking you at once on close range - I always use this skill to escape. They also got a single sleep skill.

    Btw bard got the best sleeping skills - Turn enemies into dancing penguins with music <3

    Bards also got a 10 second buff that increases there movement speed by 10% (this skill cannot be debuffed as it's an active skill like the chanters mantra buffs but hidden).

    As for shields they also got a shield that block 2400 physical damage only (so this shield won't work against magical attacks however I believe it works against gunners skill strangely enough). They also got a shield called MTV winter which blocks up to 3000 damage (while healing HP at the same time ) for around 5-10 seconds I believe can't exactly remember.

    They also got roots, a skill that decreases attack speed similar to the chanters debuff skill (promise of earth, especially useful against gladiators, Templar's etc ) hm 2 stun skills which are really good damage at the same time.

    there is more about bards however I won't go into anymore detail just play both classes and see what you like the most.

    Ill share my build on my bard

    I'm full MA/MB on every part of my armor including weapon + the fuse and My magic accuracy is 2700 and my magic boost is 3250 Magic boost.

    Bards do requite way more practice the most classes to master however believe me it's worth it in the long run.

    I was a crap bard when I first played I'm not going to lie about that, It did take me a week or so to finally get get the hang of the combo's/weakness etc.

    Sin will have to be the big weakness with bard lul I barely can survive skilled sins mainly due to there evasion skills that resist magic which ruins my combos.

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    Gunners:

    Hm not much I can say about gunners expect spam those skills and get some godstones ;3

    Just watch out if you play gunner that are squishy and can die within 2 seconds just like any other leather class.
     
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  17. Tykimik

    Tykimik Expert Forum Legend

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    All classes are good.

    Choose a class u enjoy playing even if it's the same class u play on the other server. Your ping isn't that bad. A lot of people I know that play have the same ping as u if not higher. And they still do well at any class. But of course the lower ur ping the better. Choose a class best suited your personality and play style.... you are what you play as. I think that way u can enjoy the most of the class u choose.

    Welcome to gamez Aion
     
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    Never say no to gladiator.
     
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  19. Slyther

    Slyther Oculus Ex Inferni Forum Legend

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    Why are people complaining about gunners on siel, I can literally kill them with less effort than the effort I put on killing a ranger (with freakin ABG). They're like my new favorite dish for dinner.

    "I like Gunners. I love Gunners! I personally think everyone should have one for dinner!"
     
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  20. Akikaze

    Akikaze Elohim, Essaim...I implore you Forum Legend

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    First off, Welcomes to Gamez. Just a heads up, Siel is an All stigma server, meaning you'll get accessed to every skill for the class. Whilst Lumiel is a stigma system server that follows the 12 slot setup.

    As for deciding what to play, it all boils down to preferences. Having that ping won't really hinder your gameplay on most classes. You can definitely still play Gladiator on 250 ping, because I do. Though scout classes like Ranger/Assassin might be a drawback with higher ping.

    The problems with Gunslinger is that there's simply too many players playing that class atm. Both server's PvP is filled with them and doesn't make it any more interesting to play. They're also a class with the lowest learning curve meaning most players can master it within a few days.

    Songweavers on the other hand is a slightly brighter perspective. They're harder to play like Chanters, that presents both offensive and defensive capabilities combined. Nevertheless when learnt, Songweavers are credible threats, especially in a 1vs1 situation.
     
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