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Do they really exist?

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by molocot, Nov 8, 2012.

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  1. molocot

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    I remember listening to this one time on the radio program Coast to Coast. They had a guy on there that was actually planning an expedition for this. He had some good points and theories.
     
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    molocot Getting there

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    is their any link sir?.... and i thought of something that it is related in aion concept too.. there are people living in some place of the world too and we can call them humans too like asmodians and the structure of the world in aion is similar to the hollow earth.. weird isnt it...
     
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    yeah your Weird.....
     
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    yeahhh, but base on hs theories, it might be possible
     
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    MIGHT be possible but i dont see how, moon tugging on earth, and the other 8+ planets in the solar system, and the sun, the earth would fall a part, if there is a vacuum in the center of the earth then the earth would colapse in on it self, if its air the solar system would tear the planet a part, his theories have be disproved in science circles for years, its just one of 2 million theories, and one of the 2 million that is made up of "what i think, what i believe" but many of his "proof" can be explained in millions of ways. Just dont take everything as it comes, think it through, look it up, investigate for yourself, ive seen videos like his before and most of them have either been edit tests by people seeing if they can, and CGI tests. So just investigate for yourselves before making a judgement.
    This is my opinion and my belief, through my own knowledge of science, astral physics and planetary sciences.
     
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    no...

    the video actually doesn't prove a single thing other than a "scientific" theory mixed in with a conspiracy theory. The lack of proofs to sustain such a theory is enormous. From the many facts that prove that earth isn't hollow, I'll stick with one.

    The center of the earth is made up mostly of iron. Hot, melted iron that is spinning in one direction all the time. This is what produces an electromagnetic field around earth. The same electromagnetic field seen in the video, and the field that protects us from most of the sun's dangerous radiation. It is the same electromagnetic field that produces the auroras seen in the video as well, and without an active iron core, we wouldn't have such a field.

    In fact, science points towards the fact that Mars's core could have frozen, which would explain the lack of a field in mars.

    Without even going too far, I'm honestly skeptic of the idea that the earth would have a hollow anything inside of it. There are no conspiracies to keep the "truth" of a hollow earth from the rest of humanity. Why? Because there's no reason to. If earth was hollow, I don't see why any entity wouldn't want it to be a known fact. As far as conspiracy theories go, most are just that, conspiracy theories.

    So, conclusion is, 1. Conspiracy theories mean nothing, especially in this case, where all that is being claimed is that "they don't want us to know the truth", and 2. The amount of information backing up the theory of an active core made up of iron makes it a much more solid theory than any other, period.
     
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    The video is absurd, it talks about a theory but does not provide any comprehensible information, beyond observational facts that are explainable with a luxury of details otherwise.

    For starters, gravity is constant in all the corners of the Earth, it does not fluctuates, and its dependent of the mass of body. If the planet were to be Hollow, we would have gravitational spikes here and there because the differential mass of the planet where there is more or less material.

    On the same topic, our atmosphere is retained in place because of the same factor, gravity. It has been said many times that Mars once may have been a planet with atmosphere and even with water in liquid form. But same as the Earth, Mars have constantly been bombarded by asteroid or meteorites during the course of its existence. But unlike Earth, it has a lesser size and by consequence less mass and in result less gravity, which implies that after heavy bombardment the Atmosphere was ejected slowly from the planet. That and because it does not posses large moons like ours that may work as a shield for outer space bodies, but that´s a topic for another time though.

    If our Earth were to be hollow with less mass than the one it has now, there´ll be no atmosphere, period.

    After that, we need to consider that we have Star bombarding us constantly with radiation, charged particles, microwaves, infrared, UV and even radio waves. We are not able to survive that, we are here because we have an EM field that is generated by a rotating outer core made of molten iron alloys over a heavy solid Iron-Nickel inner core. The metal core itself is not what produce the EM field that surrounds our planet, but the spinning molten outer core, both works as a dynamo which creates the field that extends outwards to where the solar radiation particles reach. If our earth were to be hollow, we wouldn´t have a EM field, we wouldn´t exist, we wouldn´t know where the north is, all our navigational data, as we know it today would be useless.

    The video makes emphasis on a rotatory hole showed in the pole. The guy seems to forget that our planet is spinning at 1670 km/h. And there is a factor called centripetal force, which makes an object, in this case our atmosphere characteristics; clouds for instance, to follow a curved path, and the direction will always be orthogonal to the velocity and it causes circular motion. Since the clouds are not directly attached to the object in motion, they wont circle in their own axis, but following the path described, all this according to the fluids dynamics.

    Lastly, whenever there is a movement that generates force upon other objects, that force has to travel through it. That´s common knowledge. An earthquake will generate those kind of forces in the surface since the surface is rigid, the force is transmitted through shear waves, those waves have been detected in the center of the planet until the outer core, after that only compressional waves can be detected due to the liquid molten properties of it.

    I could go on an on, but I think is enough.

    The theory fails miserably every where, it denies the laws of physics in such a way that makes no sense at all.
     
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    Although there are countless things wrong about that theory. I think molocot was trying to use it to explain the lore of Aion. The world of Aion as we know from the maps is a hollow planet that has dual habitable areas both internally and externally.

    Realistically speaking though, if the Earth was hollow like in Aion. Without an inner medium means it is not able to hold a hydrostatic equilibrium as the pushing down force outweighs the pulling up force. Our Moon's orbit will have destroyed the integrity of the planet leading it to collapse and implode. Funnily the world of Aion happened to implode too (through a different means).

    Applying physics further, according to Newton's First law, objects will move in a constant velocity unless interfered by an external force. During the collapse of the Tower of Aion, it split the planet into halves. If we apply physics to this, the force from the planet's implosion should force to made the 2 halves continue drifting away from each other, since space is a relative vacuum and there is no counter forces.

    Furthermore the planet's destruction should have nullified the gravitational field meaning the internal inhabitants should be weightless. Maybe that's why Daevas can free glide and fly xD
     
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    What is the point of a conspiracy theory if there is no truth behind it? People are just crazy like that by default? Im just saying..there is some truth behind it,but we just dont know the "amount" of it..just yet.

    But just think that everything in the universe is pretty much "magic" since we dont really understand everything,so why should we understand this theory? People think that its crazy to think that another world exists beneath ours,well not really..it is also crazy to think how the universe was created,there are only theories about it and nobody knows how and when universe was created,or it was always there..or wut? So dont be so narrow minded,i believe that its true unless proven otherwise with FACTS...
     
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    Its quite a big leap you are making there.

    But in the spirit of healthy discussion, Atreia was sustained by Aion´s magic stuff, Aether. So when it collapsed it created some sort of null space with that enormous power, so the planet could sustain itself in that cracked form.
     
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    well that was really a healthy ideas ..but talking about conspiracy my point of view is this... who taught you what science is all about? from what grade you first knew that armstrong was the first man who stepped on the moon? what if they lied to you? what if all of the facts and theories they all socket in your head was a lie or shall we say a half lie?(sorry idk the exact term^^what if you are using that knowledge now, well infact its a lie? as einstein said that imagination is important than knowledge i think thats really make sense. they dont even tell us that the earth is growing.. coz its a huge revision of all theories and education in schools.. we can say that hollow earth is more like a fantasy, but why our universe are there? why all of the planets are just hanging around? our earth was once said it was flat and the earth was round was only an assumed theory.. i hope this make sense ^^ ....
     
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    This theory has no strong basis this matter is overstated there's no way possible that there a new world beneath the Earth with a little consideration there is a probability Earth is simultaneously changing due to men fast pace improving in Technological Advancement for Industrial Revolution w/c is widely affected as both in good & harms way. if the World will expand naturally maybe this time humans will extinct if you compare the balloon who is expanding the surface is getting farther apart if this happen and the 2 points can't hold unto it the balloon will explode w/c i dont want to imagine if our World will end in this manner. if we see the Universe is always progressing/expanding time to time i support to this but not Earth. I believe in God who has all the answers on this i prefer God is the creator & end of Universe than uncovering the fact that he never existed. I cant imagine life after death w/o soul.
     
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    The problem with that thinking is assume technology never advanced and paradigms never shifted.

    It is indeed humans once thought the earth was flat. It was deemed correct for a pretty lengthy period of time because there was simply no way to disprove that theory. Unless someone was brave enough to sail the oceans navigating through new environments, praying they literally do not sail off the edge of the world. That's why the discovery of new territory was often around the edges of known continents until it was widely accept the Earth was round.

    However even after the round earth model was proposed, lack of knowledge about the geographic region of the planet lead to interesting discoveries. Hence why the Natives in America was nicknamed Indians because they thought they had traveled to India. And guess what, no one sailed off the edge of the world and that's pretty solid proof.

    Furthermore, although the earth was accepted to be round, many still thought Earth was also the centre of the solar system. It took many number of years and theories whilst observing the planets/stars to collect data and determine the Earth is actually revolving around the Sun. This creates gravity and is what keeps the Earth "floating" in space as you shall call it.

    The Earth never physically grew, it can be observed from plate tectonics that land masses are in constant movement hence the occasional seismic activity. You're questioning the things that are often not observable through the naked eye. Our eyes only pick up a certain visible spectrum, can't see infra-red, microwaves ultra-violet etc. but look at our housing appliances, we use them all the time. This is the same for Gravity, light, vacuums and other things.

    As you can see, humans advance forward correcting past mistakes, it is not coincidence or garbage knowledge, nor is it perfect evolution of knowledge. Throughout time these physics theories has been refined and actually became laws of nature because that's how things work in those circumstances no matter what we do. Do not think no one in the past has attempted to disprove the accepted science, sometimes people get it right, other times things has been proven wrong yet there are those too stubborn to accept the truth.

    I believe everyone wants the answer to the origin of the universe and meaning of life (unfortunately it isn't 42). We simply do not have the technology or knowledge to crack that. Things like the "big bang" theory are simply theories, personally I'd rather believe God created the Universe than simply a sudden collision of atoms lead to the expansion of the Universe. Many people think religion and science don't mix, but to me we are simply using 2 sides of a coin to explain life, religion tells us how we should live, science tells us what makes us live.
     
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    humans tend to overthink things to much, which leads to birth of new psycho's...
    which then leads to people which their intelligence is below average, and those people believe all the crap that people are spouting.

    it's impossible for a planet to be hollow, there.. that's the fact.
    there is no doubt that there are lifeforms out there in space, in one of the million galaxies.

    but seriously.. a hollow planet -.-'
    people won't stop amazing me with their stupidity :p
     
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    and Im stupid to reply on this post thrice &___&
     
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    There are things you can´t deny no matter of much of a fantasy or imagination you wish upon reality... Like Gravity. Your hollow world goes against it, and since no feasible theory besides your need for conspiracy in the post, or in the video, you can´t expect that any take it seriously.

    Simply put, its illogical, inconsistent, incoherent and preposterous.
     
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