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Fix the Magic Resist formula?

Discussion in 'Problems' started by Elysios, Jul 5, 2011.

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  1. Elysios

    Elysios New Member

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    I was testing the other day.. and with a Sm with 1400 MA versus a cleric with 1700 MR .. the result was.. 100% resist??????

    Some players with full equipment and full MR manastones should have like 2.3k MR I guess.. yesterday I was with 2k MA and the result was.. 100% resists??????

    Thats just wrong.. the formula always was the same.. in both cases the resists should have been only 30%.. in both cases I saw a minimum of 10 or more resists in a row.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.. but I'm sure that with that difference between MR and MA 100% resists can't be possible.
     
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    same with silence/sleep/stun on rangers and other classes (Bump)

    ~Playah
     
  3. Menina

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    i think MR is over power.

    My Cleric with 1800 Magic Resist can resist for alot of Fears :w00t:
    Only sorcer with +1000 buff accuracy can hit me, i never get stunned
     
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    y everything is fked up not only clerics and no one s trying to fix and when they fix something it's fked up more then before
    but w/e idc i will play sucks sorc before they fix ranger if they will fix them ofc
     
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  5. uding

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    yes i think something is worng
    I tried to hit my legionmate who haz 2.2k mr with my 2.0k macc
    and it is like more 80% resist.

    resist rate is so high i guess.

    +plus
    never resisted entangling arrow with 2.1k mr
     
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    entangling shot / shock arrow never gets resisted :(..annoying as hell.
     
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    My Clerics Resist a lot at 2.2MR while my sorc misses a lot with 1.9 MA.I can only hit using Suppli :(.
     
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    most of the classes can boost their accu in some way. the only class that kinda suffers is SM since we dont have any buffs to make our MA higher like sorc
     
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    It's clear that the formula it's wrong.. since I play aion the % of resist is the difference between ( MR - MA ) / 10 .. the need to fix this asap because the new players try to hit people with 2.3k MR using 2k MA and you get only resists.

    I hope the devs read these soon.. many of my friends stoped playing when they saw how bad the formula was.

    A little example from aionsource:

    "lets say you have 1000 magic resist. i have 800 magical accuracy.

    (1000 - 800 ) / 10 = my chance to resist against you

    200/10 = 20% chance to resist when i'm fighting you."
     
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    cleric either.
    every skill is magic based. but dnt have any acc skills >.<
     
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    true :( i have stoped to attack ppl with my cleric. its useless.. even glads or classes with no mr resist like 80% of our attacks
    i love when im using the new skill that lowers ppls MR gets resisted =)
     
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    This a formula problem.. and it's game breaking.. besides affects many classes so it should be fixed soon.. everyone who has played for a few months knows how MR works.

    I have an SM and even with +60 food and buff from water summon I get 100% resisted by high MR players.. maybe they can resist 30%.. but no way 100%.. it's just ruins the game for many classes.
     
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    lets just hope it gets fixed soon. so we see more classes then shdowbursting sorcs and nab aoe glads on this server
     
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    I understand that perhaps MR is not working 100% as it should but I doubt that the 100% resistance applies.

    I'm a templar with MR from head to toes on an ABG armor set and I do resist alot of spells from sorcs, chanters, w/e... but I do not reist 100% of their spells. I actually tested this with my wife's Sorc and she was using a full MA set and the results of her full MA vs my full MR was about 50% resistance without buffs or scrolls.

    The second test was with my templar with food/scrolls and her character without food/scrolls or buffs and I resisted about 55% of her spells.

    I highly doubt that anyone can resist 100% unless the opponent had really LOW MA.

    After I did my MR upgrade yesterday, I resisted a bunch of sorcs more than usual but they still go thru the MR and hit me anyway. With less frequency but they did.

    I'll be going back to retail sometime this or next week to run a few tests to help evilset a little more with the stuff that's missing because I'm tired of people complaining about things needing fixing yet they do nothing to help.

    Do not forget that this is a free server and it's not a paid staff like the NCSoft developers get paid. Otherwise the devs would not ask for our help, they would be in the obligation to do it themselves but that is not the case.

    I appreciate that you bring your concern to the community about the issues with MR but it would be a lot more reliable if you could post more detailed data about your tests that way something can be done about it.
     
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    You do. Wall of Protection: Water.
     
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    Of course redcox.. but sorcerer has a buff that rises MA ultra high.. the rest of the classes can't go so high in MA especially clerics. Just test two playes with 300 difference between MR and MA.. you will see only resists.

    Supplication of Focus I (Sorcerer)
    lvl 1
    Increases Magical Acc by 1000 for 20s.
    Stigma Skill.
     
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    lol exactly. It's kinda pointless to use a -MR skill when it doesn't hit in the first place. The summons also always resist resist on MR build players.
     
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    really? & this is just occuring like this recently or before the last update? 'cause a few days back i have no problem playing my Sm, but i guess i'll just have to try it myself later on

    o well, the way i see it~ its quite balanced for ely sorcs.. BoS instead of BoQ.. do the math on why :) & do note i have both race of that class
     
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    I really don't know.. I'm new in this server but played Aion for more than a year now and we all know how MR should work.

    And the only reason I posted this it's because this problem is game breaking.. Clerics get resisted all the time and Sm also.. sorcerer without suplication of focus the same.

    Besides.. even when it's a free server the devs need this kind of information.. because many classes are just nerfed by this wrong formula.
     
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    i know how that feel, but~ if u've played before this update [cant be sure wether its actually happening though] its been quite too long now that the mage classes are way too OP on siel.. do note that my Fave. chars are magic types

    :) ..game breaking for those who solo~ why not try to mingle abit & get to know some ppl & do group raids.. its more funner u know

    & dont get me wrong, i do know how it feels & i completely agree with your remarks.. but try to see it in a bigger perspective :)
     
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