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PVP Event Quality

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by lonedragon, Sep 7, 2018.

  1. lonedragon

    lonedragon New Member

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    Dear Admin,

    Please have a look and review the PVP Event again, What I mean is the quality of the pvp in arena 2v2, 3v3 -- I still see 2v2v2v2 or 3v3v3, These types of 3 or 4 groups set up in a small arena space has big negative effects on players with Clothes Or Leather Classes.

    What my suggestion is, please disable the 3 or 4 group fights in Arena PVP Events, I am sure people who enjoy fair pvp will think the same as me. We have 3 Stages Of Arena:
    Stage: 1 -- It's 1v1 Event
    Stage: 2 & Stage 3: Please allow only 2v2 or 3v3.

    Disable 2v2v2, 2v2v2v2, or 3v3v3.

    Hope my idea will be taken into consideration. Gamez is pvp servers. Anything that might improve the quality of the PVP should be seriously deserved a consideration and attention.

    Thanks Once Again For The Support,

    Best Regards,
     
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    Rubyah The Celestial Nostrum

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    I agree with this man's suggestion. :beaver:
     
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    Another add: We should add the time limit of Group vs Group events since all of us needs credits.
    1v1: Goes from 00:00-00:20
    2v2: Goes from 00:20-00:50
    3v3: Goes from 00:50-01:10
    4v4: Goes from 01:10-01:40
    6v6: Goes from 01:40-02:00
    This will consume the whole two hours. It's better than being afk and sometimes boring pvp when nobody is around Heiron. Same rules goes (No kill, No win) to avoid win abuse.
     
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    Rubyah The Celestial Nostrum

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    I like the way how you use Mathematics. Kudos!
     
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    In games, there is no such thing as Fair Fight even in the real world, disabling the other portal as if you're saying that the administration is not fair for all ppl or class, there are ppl using cloth have an advantage in this type of event, I see ppl who wins even they're using cloth. I'm not a fan of this type of events, but still I see ppl love those types of events, I don't think so that disabling a type of portal event or replacing them for that reason is really valid, we can say that glads/temps or other class have an advantage in those events but cloth users have their own trump card for anything. And changing maps is not an easy task to begin with, sometime it's not just the game that need to adjust, but also the players who play the game need to adjust to the nature of the game,
     
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    Cycles War is PEACE

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    I like the way you compare it with the real life, which somehow true ;) and yes, i agree with you.

    @Lag you look hot ;)
     
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    +1 considerably.

    Man, you are thinking bigger than anyone would. Kudos! I know how unfairly the game is, taking that means there are much more things to consider. But mostly, it is the actual fact of how you play the game and how you remedy such problems with your own capacity.
     
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    you are right
     
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    yes u have a point :D, but still if u have to remember games can affect human nature and their behavior, many people can see that but its a fact, spoon feeding is not an option but a point and choice sometime need to shut down, connecting the game in reality is common, why? we all know how games can affect anyone :D
     
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    true(y)
     
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    the truth is, an event should be fair for everyone at all. now, on a 3 or 4 groups it's always like 2 groups on one if not 3. I see no point of comparing with the real life, since here the things can be adjusted for everyone fun, cuz in the end if there's no fun ,no1 would play any game. the guy it's talking about the balance cuz in a 30m range arena where are few glads it's nothing about strategy at all, it's just spamming and spamming skills. and for sure it's not any hard thing to make it 2 groups only, can be 3 4 5 6 x players ,it would be much better than 4 groups, and the same number of winners at all.
     
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    maybe its true but we can see many ppl leave before the time end, right? but still where is the challenge and fun there? speaking of fun, its fun if we have the advantage, what about the challenge, not everyone is only after the fun but also the challenge in a game, maybe its true however there are still things that we need to adjust, maybe we can enter like 2 to 3x depending in the win or lose, but changing thing is not simple like walking to a park. And take note, It's easy to make a dummy fight ur main for credits/ap and gp for 2v2 and short time, its will be an ez farm for some ppl.
     
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    4v4 and 6v6 (Pre-made groups), 2v2 and 3v3 will be auto-group.
     
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    My point is not asking the Admin to change the map -- Just the group setup in the PVP Arena Event.
    I know people who do not bother to join 2v2v2, 2v2v2v2 or 3v3v3. SM or Sorc or Even Sin and ranger, Imagine 3 groups focus on you alone as being easy target within the small area space. It's my point. Do not compare game to real life. Game can be changed, tweaked or adjusted to make it fair and enjoyable by all players.

    I am trying to help and hope the Admin will see it this way too.

    Instead, change and make it 2v2, 3v3, 4v4,5v5 or 6v6 -- Make players interact more with each other, If people need friends to group up more, depend on each other more, we will see many good relationship and values.

    With 4v4 or 5v5 -- You can see -- players will need all type of friends to be in their group setup -- Like Tank,CC,DPS Or Healers. Everyone will contact each other when the event time arrives, Calling and sayings "I need your heal, I need you now as my tank or my dps" -- The game environment will be more active and alive.

    <3
     
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    Lag ♪ ємєяιтυѕ ♪

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    I know right. It's much better than wasting time being afk in Pandaemonium/Sanctum.
     
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    i know the feeling being FF by ppl, with 4v4, 5v5 or 6v6 ur asking for well geared ppl to team, i mean whats the point? if a group have 2 cleric, 1 chant, 1 temp and 1 glad. What about give chance to those who need the reward? like the credits, that type of event will lead to group vs group with well geared ppl and good pilots, if im going to ask u, will u team up with ur friend even his low geared? some of us will say no, cuz there is a reward and sometime reputation is at risk. think about it, some ppl in 3v3 have 2 clerics 1 dps, what will happen in more people in the group? ohh u mean its power house ppl vs power house right :D
     
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    We are all aware of such problems, putting 3-4 groups in a so small map while glads are even boosted not mentioning the countless random/aoe stumbles, is just a training-dummy/suicide for cloths/leather classes. About teaming: there will ALWAYS be a sort of teaming when there are 3-4 groups in GvG like 2 groups going on 1 same group simply because is softer or due to hatre. I'm sure you all noticed how things are easier when it's just 2 groups fight where you have to apply some tactics to win and cloths are useful with sleeps/fears. So the only thing to do is wait with patience like every1 is doing with FFA (bugs-small area http://forum.gameznetwork.com/threads/ffa-maps-review.220803/#post-2129317) because i'm sure staff is already aware about this problem. Plus pre-made GvG should be composed just by 2-3 max 4 players otherwise we will just see ppl leaving as soon as they see the same "OP" group.
     
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    Yes, However, Feli mentioned about Whales Team, Power House People - There is a simple fact you must know, Gamez is an old server, Many players should have the basic gears of BL or Prime if they played for a long while.

    As for new player, This is where the Donation will step in. If you want to be strong like old players or even enjoy the quality games, you must pay some cash from your pocket. The money is like you pay for the years you have not played.

    Kirnic is right -- Step up to 4v4 is enough -- 6v6 is taking stronger team up and will also need many players base.

    Hope Admin will seriously think about this.

    <3
     
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    i know many ppl in gamez that still low geared cuz their busy thats why they dont have the time, and ppl who cant donate, if u know the basic factor of game, u should know some ppl do more than pay for gamez, its common and now some ppl just comeback and staying with starting gears. Not all new players can donate
     
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    I can assure you 90% of server has at least 1 bl set...gear is the SAME for about 2 years and that doesn't change anything if the player hasn't some real game/class knowledge. I just see how 1 asmo group nukes almost 2 elys pt having almost same gear...guess why?
    About new incomers and donations...well can't really complain about webshop gear price (about manastones yes, but archdeava+9 are easy to get and not huge difference). WOC2 are on webshop as well, i remember old times when they appeared just during Xmas and/or Easter period...and in the meantime ppl were selling to 10-15k credits. So o_O!
    EDIT: Plus there have been lots of forum events where gear factor wasn't required, giving very good reward. Every1 has the chance to gear up, simply don't pretend to have full gear in 1 week.
     
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