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Question about templars

Discussion in 'Questions' started by Shiyori, Nov 7, 2012.

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  1. Shiyori

    Shiyori 230-350 ms :/

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    i would like to know what build templars go and with the other set build? since templars change sets occasionally in battles, and for the weapons mace and shield and greatsword, what manastones to put on which? is it not advisable to use extendables and better use acd Gs top, vash GS below? or the other way round? thanks in advance.
     
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    Lhuv Well-Known Member

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    Go PM Suhosin and others who's veteran in templars they might not view this thread.
     
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    Eyeshielder Well-Known Member Forum Legend

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    go dps build up crit accu or attack xD
     
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  4. Stark

    Stark ᴘ ʀ ɪ ᴍ ᴇ ʀ ᴀ Forum Legend

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    3 types of set a templar usually have:
    - Crit Strike / Accuracy (main)
    - Crit Strike / Block (optional)
    - Crit Strike / Magic Resist (secondary)

    Get about 850-900 Crit or even 1000 crit, there are times I go with 1000. Templar rely a lot on it's few hard-hitting skills to crit and hope RNG to be on their side at the same time. As for the accuracy and block, viable amounts are: Accuracy: 2500-3000, Block: 3000-3500, Magic Resist 1900 and above

    Weapons:
    - Shield & Mace/Sword
    - Greatsword

    It's a lot better to have both extendable and non-extend weapons especially greatswords. If you're going to get a non-extend mace, make sure it's not cast speed mace. You'd better go with ABG Mace or any 3.0 Eternal PvE mace as long as it has attack speed than those cast speed mace.

    If you have both mace and sword, socket your sword Crit Strike & mace with Magical Accuracy. If you only have mace, personally I'd suggest to socket Crit Strike just to make sure your Break Power and Pitiless Blow will crit using a mace since past 3.0, I've noticed Break Power hits a bit harder when used with a one-handed weapon not to mention you have faster attack speed on mace/sword than on greatsword plus the fact that you don't need to switch weapon and risk the chance of not being able use Break Power. If you can have 2-3 shields then socket each of them with pure block / magic resist / crit strike. If you only have one, I'd suggest to socket it with Crit Strike to help the only mace you have to get enough Crit Strike.

    As for the greatsword, Athana's Fate / Laestrygo's Mirrage Greatsword fused with EGT/EAT works well. Socket it with Crit Strike. It's also nice to have Vasharti's Greatsword / Noble Sky or Horned Dragon Emperor's Durable Greatsword. Fusing any of those two with ABG / NCC / EAC / ACD Greatsword will be nice. You could keep using non-extend as long as you have Illusion Chains/Doom Lure ready to use or if you're target isn't kiting or not kiting properly. Now if your target starts to run or to kite, that's the time you switch to your extandable Greatsword.
     
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  5. dontlikepvp

    dontlikepvp Gungnirs

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    if u hav a chain set..put it full mr just for the mage class..
     
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    isMacr1992 New Member

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    Crit Strike/Accuracy is good build

    Athana's Fate wepon
    mace BlindesGodstone/ Greatsword SilenceGodstone
     
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    dontlikepvp Gungnirs

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    athana is pretty rare these days.
     
  8. Shiyori

    Shiyori 230-350 ms :/

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    thanks for the info... some questions:
    what do you really mean about the crit/accuracy? put it 50/50? like on a single gear i'll put 3 critstrike ms and the other 3 accuracy?
    since i only have 1 set, and all weapons/shield i go for crit/accuracy..
    what about the godstones?
     
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    Stark ᴘ ʀ ɪ ᴍ ᴇ ʀ ᴀ Forum Legend

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    It doesn't matter how you'll socket your gear with those manastones. You can have a part 2 slots socketed with crit and 4 slots with accuracy or however you want it, it doesn't matter. Just make sure you hit the viable amounts I posted above. Having only 1 set, personally I'd suggest to set things like this:

    - 3 parts of your set with Crit Strike and 2 parts with Accuracy.
    - Shield with Crit Strike / Magical Accuracy
    - If you have sword instead of mace, put Crit Strike on it
    - If you have mace instead of sword, put Crit Strike / Magical Accuracy on it
    - Greatsword with Crit Strike

    If you ask me, I'd prefer mace and shield both with Crit Strike on them.

    As for the godstones, best I could suggest is to put silence on greatsword and mace with blind or a decent damage-dealing godstone like 2% chance to inflict 1880 damage or 1% chance to inflict 3760 damage.
     
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    RentlesSShadoW Invaders Must Die...殺せ

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    Agree with you..Is preety good to build like this..btw i have the same build on my temp(just no mace..i got Masta Sword..but with Crit.Strike as well:p)..anw im happy that i have Great build on my temp:lol:..so i must thnk you all for info...now im sure that my Char got good build:w00t:
     
  11. Shiyori

    Shiyori 230-350 ms :/

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    what about with vash and AC GS? which is better? vash top, acd below? or vice versa? someone told me vash top and AC below for the GS,i would like to confirm it, sorry i forgot to ask this one
     
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    Guille i am chillermo Forum Legend

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    AC top, Varshati below. AC is more expensive D:
     
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    RentlesSShadoW Invaders Must Die...殺せ

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    True Story..+1
     
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    LOL! Destroy an AC weapon? :w00t:
     
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    Stark ᴘ ʀ ɪ ᴍ ᴇ ʀ ᴀ Forum Legend

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    Stat-wise, Vasharti on top and AC on bottom is better than AC being on the top. If you know to yourself that you won't quit templar or will be playing it for a really long time then I don't see why not fuse them with Vasharti being on the top.

    ACD (top) + Vasharti (bottom) makes lesser sense than Vasharti (top) + AC (bottom). If you're going to do that then might as well just fuse any Eternal level 55 greatsword on your AC greatsword since there isn't much difference anyway or not worth throwing Vasharti's Greatsword away.

    I for one know to myself that I'll never quit gladiator regardless how much NC Soft screw/nerf my main class so I fused Vasharti's Spear (top) + AC Spear (bottom).
     
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  16. Shiyori

    Shiyori 230-350 ms :/

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    this is more likely the true "True Story".
     
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    What about ACD GS on top then fuse with EAC GS? Does it would make more sense? Just asking to pro-temp players?
     
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    dontlikepvp Gungnirs

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    Suhosin Cafe Fairy Foreva! Forum Legend

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    i personally disagree with having acc/crit set as main
    Main reason on that is that accuracy ONLY helps vsing block/evasion. (i guess u can say parry but i wont include it since no one uses it lol)
    Accuracy does not give a higher dps, nor a better stun/stumble rate.
    Using Accuracy/Crit as main can also mean that to many enemies, the accuracy slots are wasted.
    Accuracy/Crit in my oppinion should always be a secondary set.
    ill explain this more later

    If you have just one set, and it happens to be acd, i would go mr.
    Reason being is that MR pretty much helps vsing all classes; every class have magical skills of their own.
    It is also amazing when it comes to a solo pvp. Magical skills are annoying as hell especially ld and snare.
    stats are 2.4k mr with shield/mace, 2.2k with gs (u need the mr food btw)
    One weakness is that its bad for 1 v 1, since there are good counters for any mr users
    (sorc cleric sm will use ma if they know they r facing mr)
    (melees will have their own way to deal with mr, either a huge burst with atk+crit , or ma. *cough cough sealclubber*)

    If i had 2 sets, i would use mr for one, and block + crit for another.
    block is obviously great for melee classes, but its also great for dps.
    stats of the block set should be around 3.2k~3.3k block, and crit should be somewhere around 950 with gs.
    with that much crit, dps will be unbelievable. Block is not only used for melee defences, but also dps aka BURST!
    Also, when ur solo pvping, and is facing many when ur alone. Mr + iron skin is great rite? because it helps in both melee and magical atks. Another good thing about block is that u can use AA with block set, increasing defences for melees and magics aka super op stats that is perfect!


    So heres my point with acc/crit build.
    I can reach 3k accuracy just by swapping my gs fully socketed with accuracy, without having any accuracy stones socketed on my armor. just by that u can cover block around 3.2k~3.3k rite?
    And, if there is a cleric that has 3.4~3.5k block that u wont be able to kill (which i highly doubt there will be), y dont u just switch to mr set and start trolling? the Cleric wont kill u :3
    Melee with block/evasion as well. If they have so much block/evasion that u cant damage them with 3k accuracy, go head and swap to ur block set. problem solved, they wont kill u, u wont kill them :D.
    Theoretically, there will be some that u wont be able to kill, but is EXTREMELY rare.
    Ofc acc/crit helps because it ensures both stable crit and accuracy, but in my oppinion,
    it is inefficient.


    p.s theres a great trick that u can do just so u can kill people with HIGH block. Get 2 pcs of pve/pvp armor, socket everything with accuracy and swap it :3
     
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