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Sorc HAS to be nerfed.

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Razor, Jun 18, 2011.

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Ahem, this isn't normal.

Explain please. It wasn't like that before.

Razor, Jun 18, 2011

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Razor said: ↑

Ahem, this isn't normal.

Explain please. It wasn't like that before.
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you are talking about pand 12k dmg? well before it was max 4k dmg on my sorc full abg, but im not pro on sorc and kinda i know shit about it. well perhaps its fixed? since its sorc dp skill.

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wow Pandaemonium focus lV 12k damage

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you are talking about pand 12k dmg? well before it was max 4k dmg on my sorc full abg, but im not pro on sorc and kinda i know shit about it. well perhaps its fixed? since its sorc dp skill.
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That's how my shadowburst was (non-crit, only in huge elemental def cases), not this. This went up to 9.2k.

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wait for 2.5.. they'll fix element defense

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wait for 2.5.. they'll fix element defense
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This guy had -150. Meaning with 0 elemental defense I'll hit for 10.7k, which is still 1-hit. Pande focus is not meant to one hit, ffs.

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This guy had -150. Meaning with 0 elemental defense I'll hit for 10.7k, which is still 1-hit. Pande focus is not meant to one hit, ffs.
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well ,be happy D: sorc will have more OP skills

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I'll test a shadowburst on someone, and do further calculation on how much could it reach if I lower a person's elemental defenses to a complete minimum.

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I'll test a shadowburst on someone, and do further calculation on how much could it reach if I lower a person's elemental defenses to a complete minimum.
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We managed to hit 27k Crit on Shadowburst..
Just.. lol

btw ~ Euph had a SS of that dmg.

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Raazzil said: ↑

btw ~ Euph had a SS of that dmg.
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<3

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Now I do too:

0 elem defense, no gear.

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12k is completely normal

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I want a fing sorc >_>

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**** -.-

This makes me almost glad I can't get ingame. I'd be instantly pissed off.

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Here's the Elemental Defense calculation over the Shadowburst above:

27473 / 1.5 = 18315

150 - Flame Fusion
200 - Shackle of Vulnerability
200 - Infernal Blight
90 - Winter Circle
50 - Agonizing Slash
80 - Curse of Fire
Total: 770 = +77% damage

1.77 x 18315 = 32418

32418 x 1.5 (crit modifier) = 48627

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shut up *****es , sorc damage it's NORMAL ; Now sorcs can put up a challenge with the glads that cause 4k damage on rupture atack

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Hitting 50k isn't normal broski.

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shut up *****es , sorc damage it's NORMAL ; Now sorcs can put up a challenge with the glads that cause 4k damage on rupture atack
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I lol'd at this xD
@Offtopic: If u can't beat a glad as sorc with Regular dmg.. not this OP thing, then u got some problem going on since I never had problems in the old emu where dmg was someho stable.

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shut up *****es , sorc damage it's NORMAL ; Now sorcs can put up a challenge with the glads that cause 4k damage on rupture atack
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-=WARNING AEGIS IS GOING TO ACTUALLY REPLY HERE... WARNING, LOGIC INCOMING=-

Sorcerers have been brutally insanely strong for a long time now, its just becoming blaringly obvious that they are to everyone now though.

In truth, if everything was balanced (player skill, gear, character class, etc) then the person would die 50% of the time and win 50% of the time.

After playing a sorcerer for a while, actually knowing the skill lists, etc... I can tell you that the sorcerer class is the single class that scares me in this server. And no, that is not "just very recently", its been that way before I even started playing Divinitus (My sorcerer).

Why?:

1.) Their M.R. and M.A. buffs are retarded. Elyos get 2 M.A. boosting abilities which help shred through M.R., and then throw ontop of it all a M.R. blasting sky high buff and tada.... you have a consistant sorc which can carry around ohh lets do some very rounded number crunching...

~2k M.R. with ABG set with m.r. stones. + Buff = 2.3k m.r. (and elemental resistance XD)

~1.5k M.A. (unless the sorc is a stooge and is using a orb (wtf?!)) + 1K M.A. = 2.5k M.A. = easy to cut through anyones M.R. ... unless you have the blessedly unique templar who -insists- upon stacking M.R. in a ABG chain set AND using his short-duration M.R. boosting buff.... but SERIOUSLY how often does that happen? Answer: Very fking rarely.

Therefore all M.R. stacking = useless. All M.A. stacking is also generally futile for other classes too. Resist every magical attack, and ignore everything else... pretty damned good deal????

2.) Instant cast glory, Frost snappy move thing and the summon rock ability, kite and use this shit. Also the close-range iceblasty thing is insanely cruel as well.

Tl;dr: I have had no issue killing people using instant cast abilities alone.

3.) Stunning barrage, welcome to pain anything without U.D.:
-Ice Chain
-Thunderbolt Arcane thing

Doesn't sound like much, huh? Well, it is.

4.) Insanely horribly annoying "Ultimate smashing death of ****ing doom".

HERE IS HOW TO DO IT.

Sleep, tree, sleepcloud... your various options, even root is an option! (Instant cast, root is!)

Sleep -> Delayed Blast -> Lava Tempest -> Aerial shackle thingy -> Glacial shard -> Crash them down.

They are definately dead at this point.

5.) Instant cast glory part 2...

"Glacial Spray Ferno" Asmodian sorcerers, and even elyos, can pretty much instant cast everything and ruin your life easily.

Combine a awesome title that gives you the best Cast speed bonus, Awakening scroll, Gloves with cast speed, orb/tome with cast speed, BoQ or vaziels....

-.- NUFF SAID.

6.) Defence? YOU TWITS COMPLAIN ABOUT DEFENCE ROFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

You make me ashamed.

#1: Defence means crap all in this game. PvP defence is all that matters, and last time I checked ABG cloth HAS PvP damage defence on it, NON?

#2: You can constantly have a stone-skin up, not to mention if you time it right you can have a stone skin up and then place another one up.

#3: You can mix HP into your build if you really feel the need to. Sorcerers can use POTIONS! (Abyss + Fine recovery serum? Nuff said.)

#4: Sorcerers can use a WIDE varierty of abilities to boost their defence. HP / MP swap, Barrier of severance, the other barrier thing I can't even think of.

#5: You have an instant cast ability to dodge two ****ing physical attacks.

Just shut up when saying "sorkz have no defence DURR DURR"

#6: Oh, I actually found this so damned obvious I forgot to add it.

STACK M.R. TO RESIST EVERY MAGICAL ATTACK CONCIEVEABLE.

#7: That icey shield barrier thing.

7.) Nearly-instant cast silence ability. Have good gear and use Vaziels... + Blind GS = GG all forms of damage.

It is almost hypocritical that a sorcerer can stack M.R., can boost their M.A. through the roof and can have the gall to silence other classes without worry.

Speaking as myself? the only thing I feared in Aion as a spiritmaster (my "best class") was a sorcerers silence. Cause nothing could stop it from landing, and nothing I had was faster (Save the instant fear which has a considerably (CRAZY MUCH LONGER) LONGER cooldown than their silence). Now you can tell me "use your resist move durr durr", any good sorc worth their title would blow wither summon rock or frost on me to remove that ability and then instantly hammer me with their silence.

Now stack a 10% blind GS (Bolvigs love) and GL to the melee targets who already need to hone in to your location to deal damage (other than rangers).

Combine this with sleep, stuns, roots, etc... GL getting hit.

Now here is

Playstyles:

I myself used any and all of them as they can be properly adapted to each and every situation.

1.) Fast caster... "Spell Singer"

Use insanely fast moves to rip apart people.

Example: The silence thing, the fast cast fire ability, arcane thunedrbolt, chains of ice... basically fast casting annoying abilities.

Brutally effective in getting that GS to proc, with good gear + title + scrolls + vaziels (****, even without vaziels) = tear a person a new ******* in seconds.

2.) Combo of Fking Death:

Essentially I described the most advanced one I came up with above.

Sleep-> Delayed Blast -> Lava Tempest (or whatever you want to call it!) -> Aerial shackle hold thing -> Glacial Shard -> Crash them down with FISTING power! (And, if fighting a gladiator or cleric or chanter, or even a templar... silence the motherfkcer before rcrashing them... OOH LOGIC!)

If they aren't dead at that time (somethow?), then please promptly use summon rock or frost.

And if they are using UD, i think you already understand how to properly fight this, no? If not, then hand me your ABG gears; you aren't worth them.

There are many others, but I feel that if I keep going I may have every sorcerer blush in embarassment.

Now, are you done having me tutor you onto how to play your ****ing class? Rofl, pathetic.
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Add the damage onto everything I just said in that quote, and you have an obviously omnipotent character.

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rerolling to sorc, crap me got chain

WTT chain to cloth pl0x

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