Thoughts about the EU server

Been playing on this server for about 2 years now, I have a great admiration and respect for the staff of this server since the work they do is probably the most underappreciated and loathed of all kinds of online work you can do.
Running a gameserver of this size and scope is something NONE of you have the brains, money or balls to do otherwise you would not be spending your time here complaining your arses off, if you had the previous list of things then stop complaining and make it

Now that being said I have had a lot of disconnect with the game since the new server and gameversion has made it quite difficult to actually enjoy the game. The whole idea to make this new server was three things (in my opinion); an opportunity to decrease the lag/desync, a way to start fresh without all the difficulties they had with the first server having fixed the main problems, and lastly a way for all players to start anew without many of the exploits that made the NA-server completely imbalanced.

Unfortunately I think that the EU-server is somehow still linked to NA-internet because the lag/desync is more or less the same as the NA-server. The many bugs and problems that already were solved on the NA-server somehow came back on the EU-server and have been difficult to solve. The game is very buggy and many animations are now teleporting around, for instance all the mounts while parked will move around teleporting about 1-10 game-feet from where it is parked something I have never seen before. Many mobs are spawning underground, even the Field Bosses (Worldboss) are bugged; loot-tables, damaged while spawning, having 1/10th of the Health any of the others have, having no animations or just being invisible.

So all in all it has not been for no reason that LOADS of players have left again, also one of the reasons I gave for perhaps waiting with making the Russian server because I know how humans generally are; VERY distracted. They join a game only to abandon it again after a couple of days or weeks, so it would have been difficult to have a Russian server if it meant that the EU-server became less than half populated because of the new Russian server. But now the problem remains, the huge amount of players who joined our server only to have a frustrating experience and not want to come back are now almost all gone. The idea of making the EU-server for the benefit of reducing lag/desync is not actually happening as well as the bugs and problems are just piling up.

As I said to begin with I know just how hard it is to have this game running well and I thank all the GamezBD staff sincerely for all their hard work and dedication, BUT it is about time to get another programmer onboard since it WILL be of use to the rest of the staff as well as the playerbase which will only grow if things start running smoothly around here again

 

Didn't MadKing said earlier that the Database connected to the EU Server is shared with NA and still applied on a Server in Canada? IDK if that is true but also im not a Programmer and have no Idea if that does affect the Server at all. Also where do you Live? Im pretty close to the Server and have almost none of the Problems you mentioned. Only thing i noticed the last Days is that my Horse also teleports forth and back while Parking. I dont see it on other Horses tho.

 

Hmmm Software Engineering / Programming is different from IT people who are managing or have knowledge on Network/servers stuff.
There are rare all around IT out there that can program/code stuff + very knowledgeable on how Network or servers are setup.
Anyways, the idea of hiring more staff for gamezbd is good. It's not like gamez is not profiting right? For them to open up a EU Server which is VERY rare for Private servers; that seems to be a good sign.

What bothers me though that some people are having connectivity issues whether their from NA, EU or from Asia.
It does not seem to be an Internet Service Provider Issue because some of them have the same ISP + location as I am at, I never experienced again those connectivity issue but some people are saying they can't connect to the game w/o VPN or ping reducer.
If that is an ISP issue, why is it happening to some people? I think its somewhere on how the ISP routes / connects to gamezbd. Not an expert on that stuff but just a thought because its weird that even if you have like 50Mbps speed, you would have connectivity issues compared to someone with 20Mbps (talking about my friends or those people who are having the connectivity issues).
With that being said, the horse teleporting indeed is happening for me as well but the others you mentioned, nope. Oh yeah, I have created a Character in EU too to test that but I mainly play in NA.

 

Thanks for your answers and yes it may be that it has nothing to do with the actual connection as you both stated you have NO problems with the connection at all, but also @RevelationsOn remarked that many friends have had similar experiences although living both far away from the server and right next to it. So I guess I am wrong about the server Connection being the ultimate problem.

I can only go back to the problems with low graphics then, if you have an older computer and/or graphics card (and cannot afford a new one) then the problem does seem like it pertains to connection issues as the game will freeze and lose animations as well as teleport you and mobs around, all of it getting MUCH worse if you get near a group of other players (not sure how many before the game becomes nearly unplayable).

I am not an expert of how to make changes that will affect how the game renders and delivers the graphics but all the answers so far have been: "Just buy a new computer/graphics card", and what I was hoping for was some sort of solution that makes "other players" just disappear instead of having to drag the entire game down.

 

Welp, population of EU server has decreased from almost 5k players to only 2-2,5k and still dropping. I think its time to look for sollution to solve that problem. In my opinion the major issue atm is some sort of greed. More and more stuff is added to webshop and pearl shop is being limited all the time. Earning money end enchanting seems getting harder and harder, silent nerfing those things doesnt make players to stay, it will only help them to decide to leave this server because it was why they came here from retail. People dont leave because they achieve engame too quickly, they came here to achieve endgame end enjoy PvP and other content of game. Acutaly those who were grinding for 10 hours already have 580-600gs while 80% of the server is stuck at around 500 and dont have enough time and patience for grinding 10 times more to achieve same result as others had it much easier and faster. You can see this easily on RBF while 3-4 players kill everything around and going there isnt fun anymore.

 

Well, If you start on EU, you still had the same family name. This though is likely due to your website account that also has family names on there. So the game database will grab info from there. Now you can put up some assumptions of how much performance this is taking.

What Sergio said above me is pretty accurate. This made alot of the guys quit I used to play with for a long time. Myself included.

 

Okay I understand your grievance and I agree somewhat in what I can figure out; Greed seems to be your main concern, that you believe that there is more and more stuff being added to the PREMIUM VIP SHOP and more things are disappearing from the in-game Pearlshop.
To this I can only say "blah?", I have not had premium as well as I will never get it (just too poor) and as far as I know you HAVE to have donated to (or spent money on) GamezBD in order to even see the Special-Real-Money-Premium-Shop, so I cannot say that you are right or wrong about that.

Then you go on to mention Earning in-game currency and Enhancing, about this you feel that it is getting harder and harder to both Enhance and Earn silver. To this I can only answer NOT even a little bit, as an old player here I can say with certainty that it is not becoming harder at all, use a time-machine and go back to NA-server in the first 6 months of its existence, there it was actually hard to get ahead in the game without using the exploits that eventually "forked" the balance on that server. Quite the opposite, things are getting easier and easier for everytime the staff makes a poll or just asks the majority about how to handle something, pretty soon you will automatically get full maximum endgame gear by just joining the server. Try the Korean version of this game, you will understand that there is a fundamental difference in mentality, EU are little hungry angry babies, and SEA are usually seriously hard working and extremely dedicated people.

I absolutely agree that there is a huge difference in how much you can advance in relation to your active online playtime, but you go on to say that some players had it much easier than the rest of us and I do not know where you know this from or how you think they had it easier?

Last but not least we have had multiple threads about the RED-BATTLE-FIELD and it all boils down to those Elitist players who feel that doing well in a computer game is somehow comparable to a Real-Life skill, which is not even close to reality but you do gain the "bragging-rights" that some of those player's friends apparently find cool somehow.

 

The US server is not linked in any way to the EU server. You share the same family on both servers because the connection to the servers is done from one account that has been adapted (login server) to make it easier for you with certain things such as premium membership and so on.

 

Fair enough and thanks for the answer, although I already had agreed with the previous posters about this particular idea of mine and I have come to the conclusion that it is much more likely the graphics causing the trouble

 

Is this still a thing people believe? lobo, comon. You should know better by now friend. "Special-Real-Money-Premium-Shop" for premium users is a meme. It does not exist. It is a line in the tooltip they never changed. There is no such things.

 

I would absolutely love it if it were true, however I know that players could buy themselves a Dreamhorse for 60$ somewhere (or at least they could on the NA-server) so perhaps it does exist and has a lot more in it than we think, like PEN boss gear perhaps?

 

They bought it in the webshop.
I always have been Premium on gamez. There is no special shop.

 

Okay that sounds good to me, but just for those of us who do not know yet, where is this webshop and how can I look at the content WITHOUT actually spending real money?

 

lobo, wtf man
On the website after logging in. Are you okay m8? You prolly have to google it. There is no preview.

 

NOW I finally got what you were referring to: WEBSITE = Gamezbd.net

There is no other easy explanation of how to find or enter and view the WEBSHOP (at least I have not found any and usually my questions about it have been met with silence), so THANKS a bunch Madking/xMovingtarget I have finally had to opportunity to see the content of the WEBSHOP and it is quite easy to see it for yourselves; gamez.net on that page you use your login and then you have access!

In the webshop there are bunches and bunches of outfits, some functions that are also available in the pearlshop (2 that are not), lastly some pets and of course the Dreamhorses in three variations.

NONE of it is gamebreaking or actual gear in anyway

 

It's sad to see you go away like this. Why don't you try coming back Madking?
Your members seems to be scattered through other guilds now like Disruption etc (since one of them is in my friends list). I haven't seen Geo around that much too (he is from your guild right?)
Old players like us are rare enough and while I do understand your reason to quit, I checked the webshop again now. and I don't see any major real money cash grabbing p2w items.

Are these considered p2w items?
Outfits, Swimsuits, rare Costumes, weapon skins, T9 horses (which still you would need to level 30 and RNG skills of the horses), main, sub and awakening weapon exchange coupons, life skill exp transfer coupons...
-Well for me no, because outfits etc are optional and does not give you any advantage. The weapon exchange coupons and life skill exp coupons are well.. if you have multi toons or wanted to switch your main.

I think the only p2w items here are:
-hedgehog = since this is a monster when you get a T4 pet of these...
-Archaeologist's Map = instead of buying or looking for the travelers map loots
-Lafi Bedmountain's Upgraded Compass = instead of buying part of the compass loot or buying it in mp, not to mention it lets you do an instant transmission of your party members to you.

The only new thing for me that I have noticed new there are the t9 horses, before it was only the black pegasus now you have the uni and white pega available.
Anyways, hope you are doing well and might want to try giving gamezbd another shot. Cheers!

Back to loboram's topic.
I tried EU server again and while it seems to be giving me better latency, I don't experience those delays other than the horse thing so I am not really sure where the issue is but probably indeed somewhere with other people Internet Service Provider routing to gamezbd servers?

 

Its not the p2w aspect. The game itself is shallow. And with the EU server release Addicted got ripped apart. We were mostly EU/RU. And our server got effed over by making it all NA based since they got their new EU Cashcow. And they have/had no interest in helping us out. I personally feel like I got effed over by Carls/Gamez decision about how they handled the EU server release. Since they ripped apart my guild and left us with impossible timeframes. Or alternatively effing us over by starting from 0 again.
My passion about this game was dying some time ago, just people kept me here. With EU release these people quit. Nothing to keep me here. So I closed the guild down and left the game. Directly deleted everything BDO related.
But yea. in general. BDO is one of the shallowest MMOs I have ever played. It is all about upgrading literally 8 items to max. But does not provide any fun and challenging content apart from it. Nothing that makes you want to group up with friends but bashing some noobs head in on worldbosses.
But all of that 2 different things you can do in this game is not enough to keep you entertained. BDO is a turd in a christmas gift box. That is really all it is. Looks nice on the outside. But inside. Its nothing more than a piece of .... that is made to lose you braincells and inject $$$ to kill less of them.

 

WOW! I thought I had my misgivings about this game but apparently I was underestimating just how bad someone could put it and also loathe it like you just described :O

Well I do understand why (or at least some of it) you think as you do, I am in fact with you most of the way on this topic; It is abundantly clear that this game was made to CASHGRAB!
The other really big objection I have is to make the entire game about capitalism, it is litterally about making in-game money and lots of it.

Now that being said I have started a Roleplaying guild because I have noticed the terrible limitations the actual game has that is one reason I stay, that the combat system (animations/graphics as subreason) is supremely like what I have wanted for years in a MMO but cannot find ANYwhere else in the gameworld, NOT like Tera or Raiderz or Vindictus VERY close but nothing like the control system that becomes nearly intuitive after a while, NO numbers spamming like all the rest except for Vindictus but that was horribly limited in comparison.

I do get the pull to just leave this behind but in my current situation this works as a timegrab for me and it lets me disappear for a little while into a game that can be enjoyable IF you do NOT follow the majority and just "play-to-win" which doesn't make much sense in this particular game but people still behave as if it were entirely for them to act out their aggressions on complete strangers by getting maximum gear and just start killing any other player because you can.

I do wish that the majority could as least split up into two camps; one where they stay locked into the old mindset and another new camp that embraces Roleplaying as well as the "Long-game" mentality, where you CAN wait for a couple of days for your friends to come online with you and progress together as a band of adventurers, playing the game but adding your own extra dimension to it making it quite enjoyable even with all the detractors.

 

I agree with the cash grab. But like loboram said? Graphics and gameplay wise overall no one is close on BDO nor the gamezbd atm.
I started soloing after a lot of backstabs in guild and stuff, and now I have more time and enjoying more for some reason lol.
Once I hit all PEN as well w/ my accessories and hit 630+ RS or so, perhaps I'd start doing a full time on lifeskills, in the end its a sandbox game.
Other than PvP, lifeskills are another thing to do or what we can call the end game.