Value of a Life <EVENT/DISCUSSION>

EVENT/DISCUSSION:
This is a topic that I thought of when the last one was brought up, the one on "would you kill another person" essentially...

The question at hand is.

Why does society think of people as being "worthy" and others as being "unworthy". Also, why do we judge people? There seems to be no demanding presence towards judging others, yet society as a whole does it... and some people revel in it.


Now to get some creative juices flowing after asking the topic/giving it...

(1) Society as a whole is riddled with "differences". Socioeconomic status, how much their peers respect them, how many articles are they pushing out a year (yes, there is a difference), if they are married, how many kids they have, have they been to Hawaii, do they ride a porsche.

(2) Everyday we walk around, living our own lives. We, however, find, consistently, that we make judgement calls on others.

Examples:

"Oh their hair looks bad, I wonder if they even showered... thats ghastly, I bet they can't even afford their water bill!"

"Look at the ass on that *****, reminded me of a goddamned beached whale. Fatass, who has no self control. Bet shes curled up crying after a few breakups with a bucket or 5 of icecream!"

"Look at his girl... oh wow is she gorgeous... look at the suit he is in, does that make him a buisness man? Corporate executive...? Oh wow... I am in their presence... wow..."

"My professor is so amazing, he publishes 10,000 articles a day. Maybe I should go and talk to him. Afterall, if I could get on his good-side then maybe I would be in a good position to apply for graduate school, or maybe I could just drop my degree and go to Harvard..."

(3) Magazines, possessed it would seem, are nearly purely speckled with judgement of others.

Workout mag's: The perfect body that is really a photoshoped image, something one may only obtain by using this ONE product... lets ignore the fact that it is impossible to make your triceps that large nor the fact that their legs are nearly non-existant. But hell they look good. (And I just inserted a judgement call in there saying their legs are too small!)

Celeb mag's: THEY ARE GETTING MARRIED! OH MY GOD WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONE PEOPLE! YOU READ IT HERE FIRST!

That skanky whore ***** slut cumbucket X (Paris Hilton?) just did Y and Z and A and B and J and U and K and L ALL IN ONE NIGHT! AMAGAWD WHAT A WHORE.

Car mag's: Look at our cars! These are so much more expensive than anything you'll ever have. Look at your dumb piece of trash... I bet you work your ass off for minimum wage and hate your job and life. "I wish I could afford a car like that... lucky bastards..."



Summation:
So... what does make a person more "worthy" or "unworthy"? And WHY do we make these arbitrary judgment calls?

Last time I checked we aren't getting paid to care of "Sue- on the bus" who has bad hair and must of course somehow that hair must be related to her husband beating her.

Or how our neighbor, oh gosh darn them they just published another article and their children are both at university... "they must be so brilliant".




EVENT:
Duration: 7 days. (1 Week!)

Goal: The goal is to contribute a INSIGHTFUL and MEANINGFUL post to this topic. Try and get the most like on your post and I will have 3 winners.... in order of the most likes being #1, the second most likes being #2 and then the third most being #3.

Prizes: The 1 week event prizes, they are hawt. ;p

DISCUSS.

 

In the end, wealth and public image ultimately decide one's place in society.

In a broader view, it's man's obsession with a "perfect image", a thing that can only be arbitrarily defined, because each of us is unique and perfect in our own way. What do you associate "perfection" with, when there is virtually nothing standard enough to compare ourselves to? That's when people start to look for the common denominators: wealth and image.

A kind-hearted, but dirt broke hobo < A rich, but corrupt corporate leader in image. If you don't get to know the two, you will think like that. No matter how you put it, the statement holds true.

 

There's a few different ways to go about answering this. I feel as if people claim others to be "worthy" or "unworthy" to prove their existence in life. If you think someone to be "Unworthy", you put them down and think to yourself that you're doing better than them in just about every aspect possible, yet if you think someone is "Worthy" its a form of admiration and a goal to strive towards

 

Thread not allowed to die, tralalalalalaaaa~

 

''Worthy'' and ''unworthy'' are alike to ''normal'', what is a normal being? It's something that mass deems similiar to what they are used to. Society also thinks people as worthy or unworthy from their appearances solely, that's where first impressions shows up.
We judge people from their appearances or rumours that are related to them or something similiar like that, if their first impressions are negative, we will begin to judge.

I am stating the mr. obvious here. inched:

 

Well I believe the fear factor comes to a big play in the judgement of worthy and unworthy as well as lust. There are things we'd strive to naturally earn from a sense of lust even though deeply we probably do not even need it. A person could simply strive for something not necessarily for the 'thought' of something worthy but perhaps for a 'social status' or an approval of somebody's request like a boss, a parent or a partner.

There are people who do things just because it is the current 'mainstream fashion' happening right now, they're not directly in that sense of thought, but rather it is something that is simple known sub-consciously, we will try to justify our reasons that it is not about keeping in tune with the mainstream but simply cause 'they like it', even though that thought itself manifested from the fear (they are not aware of that fear) of being 'left on the sidelines' by the masses.

We are bombarded by a materialised world while cultural aspects is slowly being left behind and becoming history and being exchanged for celebrities who instead of staying a musician/actor/artist are becoming a competition to the media or the industry (I prefer to call it The Game) or becoming a 'brand name' to the material world and marketing, while people (young people in general) are growing up behind the screens following what they see and hear from people who 'made it big in life'. We also got education that pushes your senses into thinking if you don't get into university and come out with a 2.1 (UK grading system), you'll get no where in life and will probably be unworthy to any employers in the game already. We was not told this but rather we told ourselves this would happen, self deception.

There is also advertisement too, we see advertisements everyday, like a new drink by Coke Cola, even though it may not make us go buy their drink immediately, the actual power of advertisement is this:




Which would you pick when you need the drink, a Cola, something that you see around you everywhere, rated to be the best shit on the market and all your peers say it is very good you go or a completely random drink you've never heard or seen before? You'd naturally go for the Cola in this case. This is the magic of advertisement, to make a corporation 'appear' worthy than some unworthy.

There is also comparism (not a word but it expresses my point) where you'll be judged and compared by a person such as a parent comparing one of their 'unworthy' kids to another who is hitting the billboards and making billions (not literally of course), the child will naturally attempt to achieve something of value and worth to get the approval of that parent and please them, even though it may necessarily be something not of their interest.

I believe the only way to step out of this judgement game or at most suppress it, is to actual take part in it on which you'll develop an awareness where you'll realise just how little that judgement actually even matters. The realm of these judgements are only the ghost of your fear.

 

erm...long story short: people should get their own life rather than constantly gossiping bout the lives of others

all this "worthy" and "unworthy" bs is totally subjective, based on how screwed up you are. people are people, thats all there is to say

 

What I also like is that the posts that will be written here will naturally feed in to the subject matter of this thread. Quite a social experiment. Good topic.

 

honestly if u dun want to get depressed by knowing how our society works its better to skip this thread. ppl are labeled by archievements and not by potential thus a professional 40 year old is worth more than a dead baby but even so we are all conected and the choices of 1 person will afect the rest of the world u may say a president of a country is worth more than a dead baby.. yet a dead baby could be the reason or cause for this person to get to be president ( wth obama u own ur value to a dead baby?!?) and im gonna stop using the dead baby example from now on cuz its anoying whoever reading this. i always say no1 has the right to take a life no matter if u hide behind the terms of "society" or "laws" to do it; simple as if u kill a murderer u are urself a murderer not a carrier of justice, u can never know the consequences of some1 die to the hands of another ppl or by accident u can never know the person who was suppose to kill hitler's father was aprehended and executed before he carried out that action, ppl are unaware that by simply breathing ur killing another living beings somewhere, so ppl can only do what they think its right cuz they cant see beyond the posibilities. why is fashion invented ? "because what others say matters" dosent matter if u not always recieve a compliment the posibilities are out there to change that outcome. even the existance of a poor guy is important to a rich guy cuz it justifies his existance and the pillars of his richness and archievements. i'd like to believe every1 has the same value yet not everybody sees it; ppl are just full of potential besides we still monkeys as we evolve (or get worse) our society does the same.

 

In this society, we were taught either from our parents or in school that the people we associate with will effect how you are perceived by others whether it is in a good way or a bad way. It is a person perspective that can have a toll on people as well as themselves. It’s become human nature to point out or judge someone based off what they see, do or say instead of taking the time and energy to go shake their hand, introduce themselves and get to know one another.

It is easier for someone to reject a person then it is to get to know them. Due to so many people getting hurt now-a-days, they rather put that wall up then break it down. Life is about taking chances, if you don’t step forward and take the chance, you will never know what the future beholds.

Same goes for people deeming one worthy or unworthy. Where’s the rules that a worthy person are those that follow these specific guidelines and whoever don’t is marked as unworthy. You waste so much energy and time categorizing people then it is to just accept them and welcome them into this world.

Example: One who comes to forum and you all deem him unworthy to make a statement due to his join date or post count.

Post count and join date is just a number. There are no relevant facts stating this is the person’s personality. Instead all it doesn’t is deter others from feeling unworthy enough to be part of this “clique.” In which everyone is welcome in this game and forum.

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I couldn't find this specific scene because it fits this topic of discussion. So I had to download the movie and clip it out myself. which is why i didn't post sooner..Hopefully this all makes sense. xD I suck at writing.

 

We as a society deem people to be "worthy" or "unworthy" due to our natural desire to fit in with other people. You may not realize it but at an early age, engraved in your mind is the "social norm". You desire to be a part of this "social norm" whether intentionally or not.

Growing up you are taught important values in life and are constantly reminded that in order to be "successful" in life you must be well off financially. Being taught what defines "successful" in life becomes a part of whether or not you deem someone "worthy" or "unworthy".

The greatest impact in your judgement upon people comes from your high school experience. You most likely have heard rumors spread about a particular person who doesn't fit in with the crowd. This person is always singled out and bashed upon by others, not because he did something wrong, but because he did something that wasn't the "social norm". Many people will straight out deem this person "unworthy" just because he doesn't fit in with the crowd. If someone disagrees with this, they most likely do not object to the matter in order to maintain their fake persona in society that is required to "fit in".

You constantly hear me talking about having to "fit in" in society, so let me ask you this. Have you ever had someone tell you a joke that you didn't particularly find funny, yet you laughed anyway? This is because you do it to fit in with the crowd, its natural instinct and habitual. The same exact thing is being done when deeming people to be "worthy" or "unworthy". You deem people "worthy" according to others opinions and you do the same for the latter as well.

It can be broken down into two categories that can simply define who you believe is "worthy" and "unworthy".

"worthy" people are those who follow the social norm in life and live out successful lives without straying off from it.

"unworthy" people are those whom you consider to be different from the normal person and even if he still lives his life comfortably and is happy with it, you may still believe he is an "unworthy" person because he rejects the notion of normality.

 

Bumbing thread.

 

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