Sharp Shards Aren't Worth Gathering

I agree sharps should have been included, but I'm always rushing off to work at this time of day and never have the time to do a proper job of anything. I also wish we knew the average number of stones used to max out a single weapon.

But looking at the market place totals, you're 100% correct. At least those are the numbers I'm getting, too. The total amount is tiny compared to the player base. Not only is gathering not worth it, but it's almost impossible to gear up if you don't want to spend 5 hours a day gathering. Basically, 101 concentrated weapon stones were sold in the past 24 hours. Considering your point about the unequal distribution, and with over 600 players in the mix all needing multiple stones per item, this problem is so obvious that it makes me crazy. lol

This problem also takes some of the simple enjoyment out of just playing game. A few days ago, a guy in chat was totally excited because he finally got a lucky shinny steel tool, then so disappointed because was only able to get one armor shard. Disappointment is probably not very good for longevity. LOL

 

You had to go there... LOL...
If things were balanced, that poor guys bad luck would have been only a few shards rather than zero.

Anyways, this topic has been put into multiple ways to look at, and so far there isn't an argument swaying the idea of this thread. There's not much left to say for now, so I'm just going to wait for a reply and post this link in discord from time to time to get a staff member to at least acknowledge its existence.

 

I have been here since launch and in beta and yes the sharps/hards are really a problem the server currently is only feeding the rich people

 

on the weekend was an drop increase so dont count that

 

ur just toxic af i notice allready dont call me a fuck at first.

second just cause ur probably one of those rng blessed high geared ppl doesnt mean that counts for the average player.

 

What's the point if you have to keep replenishing energy by waiting, wines, etc? You end up losing money if you don't have good rng.

I didn't even get this much on the weekend. Also, the whole point of this is comparing gathering vs mob hunting. I believe that it is clear that farming hexe is way more profitable (drops + drops from Marie/bundles) as you get 2 sharps most of the times.

Also, this is a priv server with a relatively low population (when compared to retail) so the market will obviously be starved of such items. Most people are also not into the "grinding and entire day for a chance at something" as this wasn't really the idea behind playing in this server to start with. Fact is, we lack other ways o make money (IE: trading) and people are tired of always doing the same.

 

I did pretty well last weekend, too, but not since. If the increased drop rate had remained in effect, it would have been much, much better.

However, mugimugi, it's hard to use one persons experience, (including mine) on a drop increase event weekend, to measure how the server is doing as a whole. Anecdotal evidence is never really accurate because it doesn't take into account the larger picture, how the system is working for everyone. Between all the players there's a huge in-game knowledge gap, a time investment gap, and then there's the sheer RNJesus of it all. I'm glad you've had such a bountiful experience with shards. However, other folks are experiencing something a bit different. Anyway you cut it, it's not a reason to get upset with one another.

I'm editing this post to ask you a serious question: How does the shard rate compare to retail? I have no idea.

 

Hang in there. Keep playing. I have a feeling things will get better. I love this server, and I have a good deal of gold at this point, but I certainly realize the balance is out of wack.
You know, when strangers call you names, it means nothing. They don't know you.

 

Mugimugi, that's amazing. What in the world are you gathering? Besides a lot of hard work, what's your process? Give us a little knowledge, please.

 

ANNOUNCEMENT:

Drop rates are much higher at this moment!! I'm doing great! So, let's get our butts out there and gather stuff!!

Thank you, Gamez!

And thank you, Griff, for starting this thread.

 

140 energy lucky tool and sroll 0 sharps/hards feelsamazingman

 

I wish I could agree with you but I don't think this is true... There's no official patch notes, or response in this thread to back it up so I went out and gathered with this weekends event of +10% increased drop rate and these were my results: http://prntscr.com/h6b7wk
Considering that I have a lot going to make this the best possible outcome, this is still horrible for sharps for 35min spent opposed to farming hexes. Maybe I'll go hexes for 35min and edit that into this post too..

Edit:
I just finished 35min of Hexes
Drops 1: http://prntscr.com/h6cr1w
Drops 2: http://prntscr.com/h6crep
Drops 3: http://prntscr.com/h6crox

Results after melting all 5 Witch Earrings: http://prntscr.com/h6csgg

2 Sharps vs 8 Sharps
Nothing has changed.

 

Hmm... maybe I've just been lucky. I got 25 shards on 200 energy. Super strange.

Process? I try to use a lucky tools. I have premium. My gathering level is master 8. I keep a 20% increase scroll going. I keep my luck and gathering speed at + 5. I also use a life alchemy stone that gives a tiny bump on drop rates.

Before I posted my announcement. (LOL) I was getting 1 shard out of 100 energy (using all the above). I'm sorry if my super amazing RNG offered false hope. Damn it!!!!!!! I hate that. I want us all to do well. Disappointment is honestly the biggest longevity killer. That's not a "LOL" moment, it's just the truth.

Hey, mugimugi, do you see what different experiences we can have? Why is that?

Oh, Griff, I didn't think it was something official. I just thought the drop increase event this weekend was great for shards. If you went from 1 to 25, on a single lucky hoe, you'd think the same thing.

I so want us all to love this amazing server, that sometimes, hope clouds my vision. It's totally my fault. That's just how I am.

 

Multiple Damn its!!! That just sucks. I don't understand. I'm going to try again. Let's see if my numbers are still that vastly different.


Okay, I just burnt up a lucky shining steel hoe. I got 11 hards and 7 sharps.

 

I had one gathering session at pilgrim's with one lucky shining pickaxe and got 6 sharps and 22 hards, over about 45 minutes.
I went back after making two more pickaxes, and got 7 sharps, 7 hards, over 80 minutes, casually gathering. This is about consistent with rates I'd expect on retail using kamasylve blessing and using a yellow sharp life stone. This does not reflect the economy of a 10x server at all. Part of the issue though, is that there isn't enough silver to move big ticket items since trading has not been implemented, which is its own bag of worms...

 

Update:
Sharp/Hards are now much easier to get... Through the means of PVP! Yes you read correctly, you now have to enjoy PVP'ing self boasting TET/PEN no lifers that you do practically 0 damage to with unbalanced classes/stats (Maewha/Evasion) just to upgrade your gear!

For just 20min of your time:
Winning: http://prntscr.com/h8z234
Losing: http://prntscr.com/h8yxmr

Aside from my QQ'ing, the balance in this server is it's own thing now. After weeks of this thread being up, I am giving up on pleading for a GM/Dev to hear my cries. I think it's time for me to conform to nonstop mob grinding and PVP with very little lifeskilling as it is not worth the time opposed to other alternatives.

 

???
This is actually great.

 

Was* a great way to get them... They edited the post and reduced the Cron Stone & Mem Frag gains by 4 times and halved the for sharp/hard's. Oh, and they turned it into a weekend only event. Lol....

I don't even know what to think anymore.

 

I would actually like for the staff to play the game for real. They just keep ignoring players.

 

In retail my best form of gathering Sharps + Hards was by farming but sadly you cannot do that in this server because they somehow got rid of Pruning/Insecticide.