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Open the trade

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Bannan, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. Bannan

    Bannan Banned

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    Like in the title.
    Open the trade.
    That would be so nice if you could actually trade things to ppl. besides market place >,< Let's have some player - player interactions.
     
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    Debatable.
     
  3. Bannan

    Bannan Banned

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    What's the worst thing that could happened ? The main thing why trade is blocked is to prevent gold-sellers and bots, right ? im pretty sure we wont have that on this server so why just dont try ?

    Like 460 Seraps on the market ... Over 4k relics, just open the trade let ppl to sell it for w/e price they want ...
     
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    We will.
    It also prevents multi accounting.
     
  5. Bannan

    Bannan Banned

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    Check ip / HWID > BAN
    Still majority of ppl wont even know how to turn on 2 BDO clients ...

    They could add something like "Verify" account .. it would take some time to "Verify" everysingle player at the beginning but hey, we are not getting 100+ player/day
    Or something like with pearls gifts but let's say 64lvl +
     
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  6. FuRiouS

    FuRiouS Legendary Member

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    This game was designed to NOT have trade between players. Somehow enabling it would break the game entirely and I assure you most people would quit very soon after.
     
  7. Bannan

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    THIS GAME HAS NO TRADE TO PREVENT BOTTING AND GOLD SELLING
    DONT TALK SH*T IF U KNOW SH*T
     
  8. Noyah

    Noyah ᴜɴғᴏʀɢᴇᴛᴛᴀʙʟᴇ Forum Legend

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    There is a reason why player to player trading is off, and that is to prevent multi-accounting, bots, gear and gold selling for real money.
     
  9. Bannan

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    OK.
    Multi-accounting for profit ? and what you're gonna do ? fish 24/7 ? ride horses 24/7 ? It isn't a big deal on this server since u can get much much much much more by grinding.
    Bots? I don't think so there's much auto-grinding bots out there, even if there are many of them u rly think they bring much profit ? just BAN HAMMER ALL OF THEM, i dont think any1 can mass bot in this game, i dont even believe that 5% of players know how to turn 2nd black desert on.
    Real-money trading ? Hey if u wanna spend money on "worthless" items w/e, what's wrong with that ? Oportunity to get some $$$$ bring more ppl to the game ... More ppl in the game > better economy of the server > possible income for the server > Everyone is happy.
    At the end 1 more guy with full PEN gear ... yeah that's terrible.
     
  10. JLFox

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    You dont understand much about game design and server management. Enabling open trade would need completely new solutions for problems which it doesn't allow to establish. Especially in an mmo, where every change being made has impact on the entire game structure, solutions are not as easily found. For now, point taken. Is it reasonable? Currently not.
     
  11. Bannan

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    ? xDDDDDDDDDDD
    What are you talking about, are you high ? or what ?
    THE ONLY CHANGE IT WOULD MAKE THAT ITEMS FROM 1 ACCOUNT WILL GO TO ANOTHER ONE

    TRADING IS IMPLEMENTED IN THIS GAME BUT BLOCKED FOR THE MOST OF ITEMS
     
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    D broke.

    Caps lock broke.

    !
    Wish I was. Would make this nonsense coming from you bearable. I am intellectually scarred. Thank you.
     
  13. Bannan

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    sorry my keyboard is broken

    can you tell me about this problems that open trade world would bring ?
     
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    I will list all the points here why player to player trading should not be enabled as much as possible:
    - Majorities of the player population of Black desert online are adults with sufficient purchasing power and computer knowledge -> dual computer / looking for sandbox solution to open dual client is actually easy if you put effort to learn how to do it
    - Problems are easier to be solved if their can’t exist at the first place. Banning players who against ToS is a huge workload which require a lot of time and efforts to go through all the process(players will argue they didn’t commit the them and GMs need to reply and decide them one by one), which is an endless job. I doubt they have enough crews for that for such mess.
    - Human is greedy. If people have an advantage by paying to win, they will. Especially BDO is designed to do so, with the player base I mentioned above. Soon u will see Facebook secret groups selling in game items or silvers -> banning never ends.
    - And yes you don’t know that some people really have multiple computers at home to do afk lifeskilling in BDO. If player’s trade is enabled, this very small portion of players will become the top 5% of the economy and monopoly situation will become worse. Most importantly is, they are probably hackers/botters/in game currency selling websites who control the economy.
    By enabling the player trading system will elevate not only the problems above but thousands more in the future.
    After all, fish wouldn’t be exist if there’s no water here at first.
     
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    Wow young fellow you need to calm down lol. There was no "crap" talking in my post. Now your reply to me was more "crap" talk then what i said. Again, Calm down kid...
     
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    Lareldal Patience is a virtue <3 Forum Legend

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    Even on retail the only player to player trade has always been only food and elixers/potions. We can't really expect them to change that here and cause even more problems.
     
  17. Bannan

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    "Problems ... Problems ... Problems ..."
    Give me some examples of these "Problems"




    Mutli-account gonna be a problem ?
    80 pearls per 30min
    24h * 2 * 80 = over 3800 Pearls
    1 Costume = 3400 = 34kk
    100 accounts = 3.4kkk per day, why no one is doing that ? 100% ban free ?



    + If someone rly wants to buy gold on the Pserver what's the purpose of playing here ? i though they came here so they have to spend even less then on retail not the other way.
    I think on retail u can pay guys for making money for you, did it ruined the economy ?
     
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    Lets not
     
  19. Bannan

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    1. Yeah, go ahead let's see how many "stable" black desert can u turn on on 1 computer.
    2. There are bots already ????
    3. Doesnt matter u can't simply "create" these items, someone has to do them first 1 ... 3 ... 50 ... more ppl with pen items with the amount that already is on the server... yeah that will change everything. U can't surpass PEN limit so eventually everyone gonna get there.
    3. How economy can be worst than it is now ? over 4000 relics on market ... Over 500 seraps on market ... Like none blackstones / shaprs / hards.
    Economy is already fcked up cuz of the amount of money and pretty much retail prices :)

    Yeah i can see BIG BOTTING companies that are comming to 4k population p-server. ye ... ye ...
    Again everyone is talking about this problems ... JUST SHOW ME 1




    There's probably 1 thing that can solve all your "problems".
    To trade anything u have to trade with items / silver worth at least the same as item u wanna buy or give it any range (like +/- 10kk)
    for example, if u want to buy kzarka u have to give 95kk or 70 relic summons.
     
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  20. JLFox

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    The point ---> ⊙













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