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Server wipe on GamezBD?

Discussion in 'Questions' started by loboram, Nov 3, 2024.

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Wipe?

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  1. loboram

    loboram Respected Member Forum Legend

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    If they wipe the server;
    Central Market Reset
    No one who controls the game flow with quadrillions in storage
    No longer a few massive guilds that don't have any contenders
    ALL mistakes from the past can now be avoided speeding up the gameplay considerably
    No longer an impossible race (used correctly this time) to catch up with the elitists
    "Playing field leveled" so that new gamers can join and immediately feel as if they are on par with everyone else

    Gamers here, and everyone with a verifiable account, will have ALL the actual money spent here on this server; Available to them from day one. Many will fail this check, as they have sold their accounts and therefore lost the guarantee.
    That one is the one I really want to see implemented, because otherwise there is little-to-absolutely-no reason to come back to this server.

    If they don't wipe the server;
    Nothing happens...no more or new gamers, since they don't really have an incentive to come here, other than the same incentive they've had All this time, where sadly enough; no inflow of new people, for many many months now.
     
  2. loboram

    loboram Respected Member Forum Legend

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    @ZachYoshi I just realized, that there was probably No point in asking you to do it, if I can do it for you...so here you go, your own thread about whether to wipe or not :D
     
  3. ZachYoshi

    ZachYoshi New Member

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    First of all, english is not my first language so I will make many gramatical errors, just wanted to make that clear.
    And second lets look at retail server and the changes they did in the past years with the new updates, classes etc. They made open-world pvp more punishing so the griefers wont be able to bully newcomers like they used to. You can read the patches yourself, I wont copy+paste here.
    Second like in any other games, people sell accounts to other people, this is not something new and it will always happening, even on big titles like League of Legends for example.
    Third thing, if you wipe out the players progress, do you really think it will be really a good idea? From my point of view it is not, the progress for new players can be easily fixed if the server have more events and more rewarding stuff to do, exclusive for the new players (not giving away stuff for free of course, like me and others they have to grind and put some work in it) or just give them some temporary pen gear boss for 30 days. I think that is the best idea that came to mind.
    The 4th thing, buff the early-mid game grind spots, so they will be more rewarding in trash loot, not drop dependent.
    Those are just suggestions, however this is up to the developers, not us. If they really want to wipe the server they will do it regardless of what anyone thinks.
    And to end this conversation, I am against the wipe idea.
     
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  4. loboram

    loboram Respected Member Forum Legend

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    Sorry if I gave you the impression it was due to your language skills, I have no such prejudice and I made the new thread, so that others can easily vote down the idea :)
    It isn't a great comparison to this server, but I fully understand the terrible implementations that Pearl Abyss (P.A.) have repeatedly made.
    Here our paths diverge, as I firmly believe that it is entirely possible, to both give the life-skillers as well as PvE gamers, the possibility to thrive in our community, without having to be subjected to random violence.
    I am in agreement that catering to the crowd of "meainstreamers" (mean mainstreamers who believe in "meta-gaming") out there, can be a REALLY lucrative income stream. But in fairness to the administration here, they have been doing that for quite a while, and before they started leaning so heavily on it, this place was absolutely Thriving!
    I would love to see some of your suggestions implemented, but please remember to keep to the subject matter at hand, and not literally start changing this thread as well, by again breaking the forum rules in the form of "hi-jacking" a thread.

    If you want to see some of your ideas actually implemented, then please by all means let's get more people in here and talk about it. The Telegram application is a security risk, so this is going to be the main place new people will come.

    Make 1 suggestion for each thread, and remember to make the title reflect the topic of the thread. The online Google translate, is actually quite good nowadays :)
     
  5. JoyBlacK

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    There is no need to talk about server shutdown because it won't change anything because you don't have a new client, so server shutdown won't make any sense because in the end we will stop at one place waiting for a new one, so server wipe is better to delete the server and
    You will rest and so will the players
     
  6. loboram

    loboram Respected Member Forum Legend

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    Alright, you might want to use the online Google translate from now on. It is just difficult to figure out what you mean, and since this is text it really shouldn't be a problem at all.

    "Server Shutdown" was never mentioned at all, and doesn't belong here at all, since this is about a "Server Wipe".

    "...it won't change anything..." I think you need to go and actually read what I wrote first:
     
  7. ZachYoshi

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    Isn't wiping silver from people accounts a better solution? So they wont control the market anymore?(Just a suggestion). Also that guy @JoyBlacK had a fair point, if you wipe the server, nothing will change at all, the server dont have new client neither updates. Its like, time has frozen for this server. I am right now online and the atmosphere is a little bit depressing, nobody is using chat, Vellia feels like a ghost city. We need update as soon as possible, this is the only chance this server have to prevail and BE GREAT AGAIN.
     
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  8. loboram

    loboram Respected Member Forum Legend

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    It would work a whole lot better, if I didn't HAVE TO keep repeating the same things, simply because it very much seems as if you aren't actually reading what it says, in the previous reply right above your reply.

    So if you please, could you take another look at what it actually says?
     
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    If there's a server wipe, it'll kill what's left of GamezBD. People won't come back. People won't be joining if there's no new content.
    Server wipes after this long are stupid.

    If people wanted to "start over" they'd just go back to retail at this point, where it's now a lot more fair since Kakao are yeeted, and the game is up-to-date.
     
  10. loboram

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    Hmmm...What exactly do you think is left at this point? The same 50-100 people logging in to "farm Pearls"? How is that a "good thing that you don't want to loose"? Could it Plausibly be; that most people who played BDO, ONLY did it to show off what they could get in-game? That it was ENTIRELY about some "status symbol'ing", where if you had money you could pay to show off all the stuff you had in a computer game? Because -not to diminish your point there- it just seems that the ones left here, although I couldn't possibly know for a fact, cause I am not completely delusional, are people who either Really enjoy the game (and/or this server in particular), OR people who just like to show off what they have accomplished in the 6+ years this has been around. So...if you like to show off what you have; Make a video, to preserve the memory knowing fully well that you never really liked the game itself, but others thought it was impressive.
    Well I was about to state that I knew :argh::banghead::dead:what other people wanted or were up to, so I cannot fault you for this one, it is an unfortunate byproduct of "western-media influence". The point here is; NO! You do NOT know what other people are going to do, one way or the other. You can only join me in speculating, and debating about it.
    Hmmm...That's really odd, since you begin with saying that this is the best place on Earth, and that if they wipe the server you will kill them all, and nobody's going to come back ever to this server; IF they were to wipe the server data, and make it as if the last 6+ years of hoarding never happened. Sorry, I just rephrased what I thought was the meaning behind the text...See how irritating it is, when someone doesn't just read what it says?
    I completely agree that saying something is stupid is stupid. :facepalm::playful:
     
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    @ganjagab
    @CrowSerainance
    @OldGamezBDUser
    @ZachYoshi
    @fl0w
    @Luminous

    I can see that you voted no, and I actually do understand why you did; The last (x) amount of time you've spent here, on this wonderful server project, has gotten you a lot of imaginary stuff in a computer game, and you would like to be able to show it off to others whenever you'd like to.
    It is a commendable goal; however what good is all the imaginary stuff, when it is on a server where no new players will want to join?

    Again I urge the staff of GameZ-network/GamezBD -not sure if they are now so separate, that they are nearly two different administrations altogether?- to make an announcement, where they can clarify all these things and questions.

    There are about 7 gamers who frequently use the server chat on GamezBD, they appear to be using Russian as their number one language of communication, and while they are probably the ones playing the game the most, they also seem to be in the way of getting this server "up and off the ground".

    You 6 players named at the top here, all voted NO to a server wipe, and speak up and loudly about how you don't want a wipe, guessing you might have some sort of monopoly on the game somehow, and that you prefer the server in the current state. But I ask you; what good is it, to have a server for a Massively Multiplayer Online game, that ONLY serves about 10-20 people? When it SHOULD be servicing 1000's?
     
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    I wonder when there will be new characters? I would like a fresh sip already, I was a little shocked when I entered the game, The server was half empty 3 people got caught, the cities are empty there is no crowd at the Auction:eek: no need to delete the Server, the Server needs a new sip
     
  13. CrowSerainance

    CrowSerainance AN ACTUAL SUPPORTER

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    As a contributing player who has invested both time and money into supporting GameZ, I find your proposals and speculations to be deeply disconnected from the realities of this community. Criticizing the server and suggesting sweeping changes is easy when you haven’t demonstrated tangible support, whether financially or through active engagement with the game.

    Your idea of a server wipe might sound like a solution in theory, but in practice, it would disregard the dedication and progress of loyal players who have kept this community alive. The challenges GameZ faces aren’t about the current player base or economy—they stem from outdated content and a lack of updates. Instead of presenting impractical ideas, consider constructive collaboration or genuine contributions that benefit the community.

    I would also prefer that you refrain from mentioning me in your discussions. I do not wish to be associated with speculative commentary that lacks real-world grounding or involvement. As someone who has consistently supported GameZ, I cannot endorse proposals from someone so far removed from the realities of the server.

    For the record, I’ve cast my vote on the matter, as I believe it’s important for those who actively support the server to have their say. If you choose to remain engaged solely in forum discussions rather than contributing to the server itself, I suggest focusing your efforts there instead of proposing changes that impact those of us who are deeply invested in the game.
     
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    Hello everyone. I am writing through a translator.
    I am a new player and several friends came with me.
    Whether to reset or not is not important to us.

    But what is really important to us, as well as to many other players in our region, is the lack of Russian localization.

    Many are afraid that the entire gameplay is in English and leave.
    Russification could attract a small number of players from the CIS
     
  15. Hirokaito

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    it sounds weird if you are afraid of english game language. And your idea sounds unreasonable asking the whole server (NA and EU server) to meet your "Russification" a of smaller russian players. Its too much to ask than you guys learn to communicate with english like you did in here forum.
     
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    I'm not afraid of the English interface.
    but perhaps many other players refused to try this project because of this factor
     
  17. Hirokaito

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    GamezAION is having a great success after reboot, they managed to get player back. Perhaps gamezbdo will benefit the same with reboot approach. @Carl @Kolka
     
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    friend calm down. I play here absolutely calmly and do not experience difficulties. I only point out the moment, nothing more. remove your Nazism please
     
  19. Hirokaito

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    its weird to hear that Nazism word came out from you though my suggestion up there is clear enough
     
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    Honestly, I think a server wipe could be exactly what GamezBD needs. I’ve played on a few private servers before, and when things get too one-sided with big guilds hoarding all the power, it kills the fun for anyone trying to join later. Wiping the server would reset the market and give everyone a fresh start, which sounds like a solid way to bring in new players. I like the idea of giving people their spent money back too—it’s a fair way to reward those who stuck around without letting account sellers profit. If they don’t wipe, though, I don’t see anything changing, and it’ll just stay in the same rut.
     

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