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blind godstone versus silence

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by kathiki, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. Korri

    Korri Getting there

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    As you quote, Silence prevents any cast.

    Taking for example a templar :

    Face Smash III
    Inflicts 687~691 physical damage on the target and puts it in the Stumble state.


    -> Inflicts xxx physical will not be affected -> purely physical attack

    Divine Grasp I (Templar Pull)
    Grabs a target within 15m of you, pulling it and all enemies within 20m of the target to you.


    That's casting -> impossible when silenced

    Bonus : as it's been noted because this is a magical action vs a target, your magical accuracy will be checked against your opponent's magic resistance in order to determine if that action succeeds.

    Empyrean Providence I
    Creates a protective shield for 15 sec that has a 100% chance of blocking damage each time the caster and up to 6 allies within a 30m radius receive all attacks. In addition, increases Stun, Knock Back, Stumble, Spin, and Aether's Hold Resists by 1000 (The protective shield blocks 50% of the damage received per attack).


    Casting also -> can't do when silenced.

    But really, like everything in Aion, it's up to each player to know exactly what he can and cannot do if silenced when playing a particular class.

    Pretty sure some templars when dying and silenced stand there trying to get their shield off and then blame the lag when they die.
     
  2. TooKrazy

    TooKrazy Legendary Member

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    maybe gladiators cant use ankle snare when silenced either. Ankle Snare = supposedly magical skill = casting
     
  3. Hefner

    Hefner Banned

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    Hmm, and why is that? When I am in a 4v1 or something likely, I just cannot escape out of blind from the godstones. Without the godstones I would be able to make atleast 1 kill in such fights.

    Perhaps you didn't know this since you already die in 1v1s?
     
  4. Cropolite

    Cropolite No regrets D:

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    I prefer blind, I enjoy seeing people waste their best skills and see them being evaded while I smash their faces into the abyss. *-*

    Also, Blind just reduces accuracy, doesn't make every hit miss, only decreases accuracy, but it's bugged here I think.

    The silence god stone is actually more or less a type of bound for melees. :<
     
  5. Korri

    Korri Getting there

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    Exactly.

    Blind is a win more skill.

    It makes winning against people who suck easier (did you need it?), it will not help AT ALL vs good players.
     
  6. Cropolite

    Cropolite No regrets D:

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    I prefer blind more, in case a group is chasing me they can't auto-attack me while they're silenced. x.x
     
  7. Brotherhood

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    Can still use skills when slience, as long as it don't require MP.
     
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    Blind is totally overuse here ...

    i bet new 2.0 godstone will be useless people will still be sticking to 10% blind and stuffs
     
  9. krelian03

    krelian03 Proficient

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    Well... all i can say is that... this server is bugged.

    Blind is 99% miss.
    I die when im blinded, and my opponents die when they are blinded.

    As a ranger, I prefer blind since we always aim for the first strike and most often than not, they die instantly, if ever they survive and blind kicks in, we run since we no longer have skills to spam, after CD, then we kill again.

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  10. Korri

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    That's because when you're blinded you're supposed to kite and run away, not continue hitting your opponent.

    Then again, due to massive gear and not having to choose between stigma lines, people suck at pvp on this server.
     
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    dont rangers have a silence skill alredy? If so then rangers + blind godstone = both blind and silence
     
  12. Korri

    Korri Getting there

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    Seriously, what's with this blind obsession?

    Rangers should go paralyze, period.
     
  13. krelian03

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    Yes... but as a ranger, as I've told you, things are almost always instaneous... we kill and die fast, It is almost over when you realize that you were blinded...

    It may be true since we all have the stigmas but you just have to learn to adapt. There are no good builds here actuallly since you all have the same build, the only difference is the player skill.

    ---------- Post added at 09:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 AM ----------

    2% is measely, I tried it before and I never saw it work...
     
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    That's a nice link TooKrazy.

    But when it triggers in those 2%, you win.

    When blind triggers, if you're not facing a retard, the guy starts kiting away and escapes.

    On retail, for pvp, the most wanted GS are the general GS (4k/1%) and the para GS, for good reason.

    Also, keep in mind that only Para/Immo GS cannot be potted out of.

    If/when we get to 2.0 it'll have its importance, I think.
     
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  16. Korri

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    https://www.assembla.com/code/AL-go...er/skillengine/effect/BlindEffect.java?rev=20

    :)

    Blind reinitialises the combat taking a new value to be checked vs your opponent's dodge. (technically it does reduce your accuracy since that's what you compare vs dodge, it just will not appear in your stats).

    Also interesting is the fact that since it's compared vs dodge which is checked last after block/parry, you first give a chance for your opponent to block & parry you (and therefore enable him to use his skills that trigger upon block & parry (see templar, chanter)) before you often fail the dodge check. Note that Blind doesn't reduce your accuracy for the test vs Block & Parry, only for Dodge. So your opponent does not block & parry more when you're blind (so his skills trigger at the usual rate).

    Also interesting is the fact that if your opponent has sucky dodge, you can pass the test.

    If you check the Silence status in the code (same directory), it does say prevents any 'magical' type skills. Skills are only (none, physical, magical). Browse the source to find the skills that interest you in order to determine if they're magical or physical.
     
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    I have to say Paralyse is very effective, It was used against me once, cost me the match and from there I started using it. It does wonders. Recommended if your a Templar too.

    Doesn't seem the pots work to get out of blind/silence, It's a shame.
     
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