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Break Power

Discussion in 'Problems' started by Menina, Jul 30, 2011.

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  1. redcox

    redcox Proficient

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    I think I know why you say that...

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    Is that little chest bump right... THERE... that blocks any BP attack...
     
  2. ShadeZ

    ShadeZ being back [not]

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    1. lame items (compared to those in gamez)
    2. break power III o_O
     
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    I'm curious if you people simply continue to fly over evidence, and statements from Retail Templar players all the time whenever its been posted.

    Here's a video of a better equipped Templar player.
    [video=youtube;p2_nUmGmxjE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2_nUmGmxjE&feature=related[/video]

    Very self-explanatory here. The Templar does nearly 4k damage with Break Power on another Templar Class, not a cloth, but a Templar class. The damage would obviously be much higher on a cloth wearer. It's obvious BP is working correctly, and the numerous complaints need to stop. I wished those who disagree would at least take the effort to look at NA Aion forum, Aionsource or others to see that BP is made to do phenomenal damage.

    I'm done with these threads, this is my last time posting in them.
     
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  4. evilset

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    Easiest would be to use same items of attacker and target and do tests on retail and compare it with gamez. It will spare my time and it can be fixed very fast.
     
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    Of course Break Power is a bugged ass skill my friend using his Dmg buff's he does 5K on me with Break Power and me using Berserking and using Sure Strike that has more Dmg than Break Power i only do 3K+ on other glad's
     
  6. bluedeva

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    another BP QQ thread..sometimes I wonder if the ppl QQing are the ones that don 't understand English. A lot of things have to be taken into consideration..the class, the EQUIPS (which many ppl fail to note), and how PvP dmg reduction isn't as high as retail (or so I was told). And to the OP, fail QQ with failed video.

    edit: some ppl are saying this and that about it being bugged and broken. But many of us have posted links to retail videos and forums indicating otherwise. If the pvp reduction on gamez is true, then BP dmg should be where it is or HIGHER.
     
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  7. redcox

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    You do realize however that a Gladiator's DPS is 100 times more than a Templar and we only relay on perhaps 2 or 3 skills to deal real damage in battle.

    If we're going to compare classes and their damage then I would like to get into the Gladiator's KD rate. I'm sure you don't complain about it when you keep a target on the ground with pretty much every single blow. do you?
     
  8. Menina

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    Gladiator - Sure Strike 2372 ~~ 2376 damage.
    Cooldown 2 mim.
    Cast 2.1 second.
    Great Stigma
    PvP damage is around 3k ~~ 6k damage



    Templar - Break Power damage is 1600 ~~ 1695 damage
    Cooldown 30 second
    Cast instant
    Normal Stigma
    PvP damage is around 4k ~~ 8k

    Something is wrong with break Power, how much damage gamezaion add to Break Power ? 4000 ? 5000 ?
     
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    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    It's 16s yo.
     
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    But if theres no retail confirmation why its hitting so much o_O . I'm just askling ...
     
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    This is dependent on the gear, my BP is 2.4k-2.6k. Pvp damage goes from 1.5k - 7k (depending on gear). Cool down is 16 sec but it is unlikely to use BP every 16 secs. BP is a knock down skill which can be cancel easily if you know what your doing. Gladiators can do an extreme amount of dps when target is down.
     
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    In that logic, did you manage to find retail players doing 8k damage? Against players? I'm interested in your answer.
     
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    Hiting 5k in an full ABG is just so shit
    So wtf is ABG armor?
     
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    In that logic, have u seen an full abg templar in retail? I`m interested in ur answer.:whistling:

    Also do you really know what equipment charecters are wearing in certain videos? If you are so eager to fix skills, everyone of you. Do like terrorized did, video, gamez with certain gears and retail with certain gear so evilset and alente can do the calculations. And not QQ with some random vids in youtube. Do something about it, i cannot, cuz i dont have retail account. Saves time and peoples nerves. Peace and out. /leavesthethread
     
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    They keep comparing retail break power with gamez when it's hard to find someone in retail with all the gears you can get in gamez.

    So they wear crappy-average gears in retail so they hit 3k break power, while in gamez temps wear godly gear and expect them to hit what? 2K?
     
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    hmm, don't know if you're blind, on drugs or w/e..but break power has a 16s CD and it requires the target to be KD. Furthermore, the PvP dmg you mentioned seems to be made up as well and lacks a lot of info such as equips and against whom. I had a glad do 9.3k crit on my ranger TODAY with sure strikel; I don't know the glad's equip, but I had no pvp dmg reduction at the time as I was PvE farming. On MY glad, I did 2k crit with sure strike on a ranger in ABG , with ONLY zapiel's spear and I don't have PvP accessories or any PvP dmg addition. Btw, I was able to kill the ranger because of the high KD rate for glad.
    4-8k dmg with BP? lol. A friend that's in full ABG did 2.8k crit on my templar with bp, and my templar only has THREE (3) pieces of ABG armor.
    Purpose of this post is to remind ppl, such as yourself, dmg varies based on class and equips. Posting numbers without any other info makes your argument vague and considerably useless.
    Whether SS does less dmg than BP or not, (which I have tested) isn't that big of a difference (highest was 581 dmg difference for me against a player in full ABG PLATE, BP doing the higher end of the dmg). If taking into consideration that the target must meet one condition before a templar can use BP, why are glad users QQing so much? Especially when glads have other high dmg skills like precision cut. A templar owned you? templars are one of the most powerful pvp class, at least in retail. Only time I ever saw a glad beat a templar or a glad beat my templar on retail was if they considerably outgeared them/me.
    Aside from glad's bugged high KD rate, every patch seems to somehow make glad OP. Oh, let's fix sure strike and make it do a little bit more dmg than BP. Oh no, now ppl are QQing about how we keep making glads OP this, OP that.

    Anyways, for ppl who don't know about templar's ability to cause the target to be in a KD state before templars can use BP..here:

    1. if you proc a block, you can use ur shield skills, which will have a CHANCE to trigger face smash --> put target in KD state.

    2. Gotta stun our targets with their shield counter, divine justice, or holy punishment or w/e, then use our Provoking shield counter skill to knock them down. Shield counter requires you to proc a block, and divine justice can be resisted (which many ppl do).

    3. Use shield burst, which has a cast time (enough for the target to actually run out of range if bad templars use this wrong).

    4. crit on your GS and have a chance to KD your target (much lower than glad's KD rate)

    Nonetheless, all 4 conditions require almost the same, if not MORE time than sure strike's casting time. Furthermore, use ur remove shock when you're in the KD state, oh no, templars can't use BP for awhile, QQ. Compare this to glad, oh no, glads can't KD for a bit, but can keep using mutiple high end dmg skills until then..and if kd rate isn't fixed yet, well..you're dead regardless.

    T_T, QQ..guys, please be patient, I haven't hit puberty yet!
     
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    I wouldn't say every class~ There is one that doesn't~ But it's like the only skill for Temps that seems to hit hard on Gamez.
     
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    First of, you shouldn't compare Sure Strike against BP. You should be comparing Sure Strike against Shieldburst.

    secondly, 8k damage with BP? that most be a full ABG Templar hitting an Anuhart Ranger or something.

    I'm a Templar, I'm full ABG and I haven't dealt 8k damage with BP since it was last "fixed". my maximum output coming from BP has been around the 5ks (critical) around 2k+3k normal. If I've reached the 6k barrier is when I hit a badly equipped player.

    It makes me sick to read people's comments when they don't even play a Templar. If we're to make comparisons, I'd like to say that Gladiators are extremely overpowered overall compared to a Templar or any other class for that matter.
     
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    The difference from APP and ABG is not that great. It'll only be a 200-400 damage difference on average set of skills. That's my answer for you kid, thought from app to abg you'd do an extra 2-3k damage?
     
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    Don't call me a kid again, I'm probably old enough to be your father.

    And why are you bringing APP into the mix? it is completely unrelated to the post I answered to. What you said just doesn't make sense. I think you replied to the wrong message.
     
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