Damage Reduction

you're not supposed to be able to onehit people. Period. also if your glacial does 7k on average, it'll do 5,600 now which is not that big of a deal, especially considering it would only do 3.5k if the person was using an insigna xD

5600 plus 1 or 2 other skills is more than enough to kill someone, plus with sleep, tree, aether's hold, and root you have more than enouch CC at your disposal e.e

 

Lightburst was put in game with the intention to shorten a fight by a lot, or end it in an instant in cases where there's more than one person - though that was the intent, a sorc will use it in 1v1 regardless and that means if they come up against 2 people after that, they won't have that luxury.

1.4k less damage is quite a lot. And as I said, nerfing glacial would actually be fine with me, as its base damage is almost a whole 1k higher than retail. But due to the extra damage reduction, our following skills also do less damage, so it wouldn't be just 1-2 skills more to end a fight - it becomes 3-4 .. even 5. Our CCs make all our attacks hit for 1/2 less, and due to that it's smart not to blow our best attacks on someone in CC'd state. It's not how many CCs we have at our disposal, but the fact that we no longer have time to use them effectively.

The longest CC chain we can ever dish out on one single target is 28 seconds. The others can be dispelled or countered with ways other than healing pots and do not count towards this CC chain. That's not nearly enough time stalled for cooldowns. In a fast-paced PvP type of game, every second matters, and for that reason you can't try to lengthen fights that should last seconds otherwise the fight ends up ultimately leaning in favors of certain classes.

 

lol you just want to one shot people dont you

you have like 3 super nukes and 3 instant cast + evasion skill and all those stuns

i think your just bad

 

If Glacial did 7k on average before update, then it will do 4600-4700 damage after update (33% damage less that before update).
As for topic starter: get more magic boost and damage will be fine.

 

im sorc i fought every class today and i liked the update :tongue:

 

......... Everyone who uses our DP as arguments please just get out of the thread already, they aren't valid factors as they can only be used 2 times every hour.

3 Super Nukes with super long cast times, evasion skill? we only have one that dodges 3-4 attacks ( normally 2 ) because of the server. All our stuns? we have 2 reliable stuns, and only one is long-ranged.

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It's ok fighting people, it's just when you come up against someone who is fully geared that it causes a problem because you have to burn so many cooldowns on one person.

 

Ok so your main factor is mana right

just use potion and all your MP regen skills and sit

i just solved OP's problem

 

Now I hope you're not trolling -.- I had a long argument with someone in the first 10 pages of why MP should not be an issue in a 6vs6 or 1vs1. Please refer back to those posts as I would like to avoid another argument on the same subject.

 

I fought against full geared glads/rangers/sins/ chanters just learn how to use sorc and stop complaining, at least now i dont die by 3 hits.... and if you play retail server you will see that fights doesnt end in 10 sec

 

Wow, this sure has gone far. I believe you've made your point Myst.

You bring up some valid points, and some silly ones, of course people are going to disagree with you.

Just let Alente take another look at it and see what he chooses to do from there.

It just seems to me that you've been repeating yourself over the 37 pages this thread has. =/

 

Learn how to use my sorc..... don't start with statements like that. Dying by 3 hits is tradition for a sorc and if you try to defy that, you shouldn't be playing a sorc.

Maybe you fought them in duels where all your cooldowns were ready, but my concern is in actual PvP when you're running around never knowing when someone is going to pop up.

In retail, fights do end in 5 seconds, unless with a templar.

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I know.... people can't understand the points that I'm trying to make... though some are silly, they do have validity. And as I said I'm stubborn xD so I'll keep fighting for what I believe is right, but with civility.

 

if an assassin with a speed weapon gets u on retail
sorry man but u die in 10 secs...
here im hitting 600 on cloths and im full abg...


myst they are hapy cause now they can use sorc like tanker classes kkkk

 

i haved played Aion chinese retail server and usa retail and believe me when i say that sorc doesnt die that fast

 

I was making a point when I used your own words. Everyone knows a well-prepared sorc doesn't die in 3 hits. But it should not be 7 or 10 hits. They were not made with the intention of being tanks.

 

maaaaan
ive been played with assassins with green ekips...
just check the new videos of full gold assassins...
how fast a sorcerer can get killed...
assassins can make 5k demage with full buffs ona chain class...

assassins are the class that ekips make more difference... cause each 5atk manastone u put make a difference cause of the atkspeed they have...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFRcrobcF_U&feature=related

looks how a buffed glad can get killed in 8 secs by an assassin that has not even use devotion...

 

Not sure where you're getting that extra 13%.

I do appreciate how civil and pleasant you've been while presenting your argument and for that I can definitely give you a high five.

 

I think it's fair to give this week, before really getting into this honestly (hasn't been a full day). Imagination should not be used as a medium to demand a change. Experience and facts comes first.

 

Also this is the 2nd time I've had to clean this thread. =\

 

Normally I would agree, but having to put up with that insignia for 3 days and now this, is just too long. I like the idea of being able to tank, I'm not going to lie about that, but the problem here is that it's much harder than it should be to kill.

I went to gelk and solo'd for quite a bit, then I went with a group from my legion for a while. My experiences were..... let's just say I don't want to do any more PvP. Just to say... my posts don't lack experience

I used to be able to take out one person in a group due to my AoE sleep, but now I can barely get them to 1/4 before being forced to use a long cast and watching them get healed up.

I'm just going to say it now that a good sorc will be able to take down any one given target if they had fast reflexes, but that's how the game was made - you have to accept that.

 

Before a group of skilled 6 players could take down twice their number or more because of skill and teamwork, now it would be a tankfest untill that 6 die out, the opposite faction would suffer few casualties..