DMG HACK ON BP(possibly)

Uehara: BP does random damage since 25-50 points of damage is random
Me: Yes I agree it does random damage WITHIN 25-50 points of damage
Uehara: Bp does random damage in pvp because you're fighting different people with different gear
Me: Yes I agree BP does random damage ONLY because you're fighting people with different phy def/pvp def
Uehara: Bp does random damage in duels but not training dummies
Me: I spend my time and effort to show a video of me in a duel using BP on a sorc over and over again, it didn't do random damage
Uehara: Bp will do random damage if you hit a sorc that has stone skin buff versus a sorc without stone skin
Me: Well duh?

I don't see where else this argument can go I showed screenshots of me hitting a dummy OVER AND OVER again
I recorded a video of me hitting a PLAYER in a duel NOT A DUMMY

Both times BP did random damage WITHIN 25-50 points of damage, are we done? Because I am I already proved my point enough

 

Done here. I am very confused with his SAME then NOT RANDOM then I saw 50 even 100 points difference. I didn't know that with points difference it is still SAME.

 

wow the post in this thread is too much...

@badrobot, go prove it to yourself, take uehara with you and test BP repetitively. then come back here in the forums... then show us the result. the test presented at hand is too much to ignore that BP is infact broken. now if your next post is just a text then please clearly you are just trolling with no proof...

@yazuki, you don't need to prove anything anymore, the arguments badrobot presented are not even valid and is deemed useless without proof.

nuff said, with all the evidence presented BP is indeed broken.

 

PSC for Provoking Shield Counter. Yes, you can use SB, however with that skill you'll be lacking in other departments. Majority of the Temps out their aren't running with SB because they want flexibility. Not to mention SB isn't a free hit because it takes 1 second to cast, so you're going to have to land a stun first anyhow, or a root etc, etc. However with packing MR, defensive options it's not easy landing SB.

Wait. What? How so?

Must I repeat myself 10000000x over on every single BP complaint thread that shows up? I'm sure you're not taking all things into account before you make this assumption. BP currently is working correctly or as close to retail as we possibly have.

 

He said it himself. We really don't have to prove it but to clear the air... Here it is.

BP proof - YouTube

Regardless if it's 50 points difference each hits, still NOT SAME as what Yazuki first claimed but RANDOM or as what TrueSeph properly put into explanation - Consistent. Will be more Random if the hit is Critical which is pretty obvious since we all know if the damage is Critical the difference from the normal damage is very huge and this is what Badrobot meant at his very first post. 4k-8k (8k damage isn't possible without hitting it Critical. So yeah, all are pure misunderstanding and unclear posts mislead everybody).

I am heading to bed. If there are other things that I have to take into defense, I'll handle it tomorrow.

 

lololololololol

 

that's not the random damage everyone is talking here... the random damage is what the ranger has right now.

this is what random damage is supposed to be

http://forum.gameznetwork.com/f63/ranger-2-shotting-90193/?highlight=

 

I've played templar in retail and contrary to what the tool tip says and what people say, Breakpower damage is not random like ranger's stunning shot or even templars Punishment and Shining Slash ,it is pretty much consistent damage with the the high end damage burst relying on using a GS criting and having both Divine and Empyrean fury buffs up.Is the skill's randomness broken? No it works pretty much same as retail ,on the other hand ,damage wise I believe it is doing a bit too much damage I don't think I've heard anyone in retail while using eternal GS doing more than 5k crit dmg on pvp geared players with both buffs up so toning the damage down a bit would fix it imo.

 

well like we kept argue'ing to the templar classes here, it's broken cause it is dealing too much. regardless how you look at it, its still broken.

 

Wrong title.

 

I never said it's not broken, the damage is definitely a bit too high I'm talking about the people thinking it should work like ranger's true randomness which BP is naturally not random by nature .

 

Like I've been trying to tell these people, BPs damage is not random in nature like stunning shot is yet they keep thinking otherwise. Its such a coincidence that the person calling me a retard for saying so is a templar right?

 

soooooooo is the damage right?

 

This thread has been going on for way too long e.e How many times do I have to post that BP isn't similar to that of Retail at all, in anyway. You can keep believing in these beautiful, idiotic lies; but they'll never be anything but lies. I'll be looking into Templar's BP damage on Retail, and compare it to that of Gamez, with equal gear. I'm afraid people will have a sad, and claim it's illegitimate, but you'll grow accustomed to it.

 

You will convince Carl/Evilset easily, but good luck trying to convince the templar community. I've failed horribly trying so and it only ended with me bashing my head against a wall

 

Mau form nerf? Really? All a ranger can do now a days is run away anyway. Traps = pure waste of skill. Ranger damage is horrible. Ranger debuffs never land unless they are pure MA build, then their damage actually heals their target. Ranger hide = worthless. Now you want to remove their only reason to play, being faster than everyone else (unless a hacker wants to speed hack and run them down and 1 shot them, which happens often.)

Templar bugged. I agree. But I would say a Templar is bugged UP, as much as an Assassin is bugged DOWN.

I blame ABG.

 

First and for most, who said that we were claiming that the Templar's Break Power skill is RANDOM same as in Stunning Shots level? LOL! Stop putting words in our mouth and stop assuming. RANDOM when used in AION doesn't have to mean like what you're all saying like in Stunning Shot, we were using the word literally. If you will care to go back through pages which I know boring, what we were trying to say is that, it deal random damage due to different circumstances you can face in PvP. What Yazuki claimed is that it deals always SAME damage. Meaning SAME. He didn't say consistent, he didn't say Random but SAME. And it is where the argument started...

Is it same?? 20-50 points difference each skill trial to a same class, set, etc. is NOT same. It is called random in the English world as you do not exactly know how big or how small the damage increase/deduction once you hit the same skill again.
RANDOM: Used by Badrobot because he was talking about the damage from Normal damage to Critical damage. Random? Of course. From the normal damage he deals, it increase thousands more when it Crits. In the English world, it is Random.

We never claimed that Break Power is a random dealing damage like Stunning Shot. I provided a video and if I meant Random like Stunning Shot it is like putting a bullet in my mouth. What we meant random is literal and simple; NOT same. Huge damage difference depending on the scenario and opponent.

This might explain my point of view.

 

just think abaut this.. nonbuffed crit when moving forward against plate is 3,4k.. seems pretty normal to me.. full buffed non crit 3,4k while moving forward.. hmm..

(ABG gs/taha)

 

Like I've said AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN what I've been talking about this entire time is that BP doesn't do random damage like stunning shot does and Cazar keeps bringing up that it does. I never asked for your point of view, you keep defending Cazars point of view which is that it DOES RANDOM DAMAGE LIKE STUNNING SHOT

Please stop talking about how it does different damage to different players how many times do I have to repeat that YES IT DOES DO RANDOM DAMAGE WHEN YOU USE BP ON DIFFERENT PLAYERS BECAUSE THEIR GEAR IS DIFFERENT I AGREE

I don't even want to describe what it feels like arguing with you when you think BP doesn't do random damage like stunning shot WHICH I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS ENTIRE TIME yet you keep saying I'm wrong.

I say BP doesn't do random damage like stunning shot
You say BP doesn't do random damage like stunning shot
Cazar says BP DOES do random damage like stunning shot
Yet you're on Cazars side in this argument WHY DOES THIS NOT MAKE SENSE?

 

BP never supposed to do random dmg like stunning shot..
BP have random dmg increase top of tooltip dmg(on retail) and its like hidden stats.. since its not read on skill description