Is Rangers pretty much useless?

This is exactly why I wish people would/could choose their own build though. Its not easy with a lot of people already having superior gear which gives high stats to begin with, and full stigmas, but in an ideal situation people would be able to do whatever the hell they want lol.

When I was playing glad recently I had the ma/crit build which is nice since everyone and their mom is MR now. People have so much MR that you really have no choice but to get MA if you have to land stuff like roots, sleep, or your entire list of damage skills, and I get that MR is good but damn what ever happened to flexibility?

In 2.0 I had a chanter on lumiel, guess what manastones I used? full HP. was it an ideal build? lol I doubt it. It allowed me to kill entire groups of people though, and it didn't take long before I was governor shortly after lumiel began, before there was many high ranks to get that sweet sweet AP from (though keep in mind gov wasn't locked to 1 player back then)

In 1.5 I was all attack on my glad. I don't think I even had a single crit stone. It was crazy and most likely not the best but even so I rose to rank #1 of a large tournament group (not event, an ongoing group) and was considered by some to be one of the top gladiators on Gamez.

I know times have changed, and you're right about builds being better, I just wish it wasn't so cookie cutter in the sense that every class defaults to one manastone build, it should be a choice for each person.

Sorry, didn't mean to go on a whole tirade about that, you're correct in what you've said I've just been thinking about manastone builds lately and it gets me down to think about the lack of flexibility or creativity lol.

 

Most of the top kills and rankings on gamez are rangers.. Lol.. So i can't think that their useless

 

Kill count usually don't matter. Rangers and Sorcerers would top that ranking for they're easier to snipe their targets from a distance (especially in zergs). And usually Assassins and Templars are top on AP rankings because of their play style, Templar is meat shield that refuses to die and Assassins could evade most battles that would go against their favour.

 

Back in the day it was easier to choose the build that makes you feel comfortable and go with it. Less people were ultra geared, most people were running in anuhart, egt, or masta best case scenario. A few donors in ABG. And that was pretty much it. You had 2 kinds of people, the ones that were geared and knew their shit, and the ones that were new (new cause gamez was new too) and didn't know anything about the game. Even with a less effective build you would be able to kill people (most people) because your enemies were neither experienced nor ultra geared. If you check the arbiter sets now, you can see that base MR is 1.8k or more (depending on the type of set, with cloth being the highest with 2k base mr). Back in the day, base MR was 1.3k or less (lower mr on accessories and most gears didnt have MR as as secondary stat), which meant that people didn't really need magical accuracy nor did they need to have loads of crit (less strike resist), so a full hp build or a full attack build were on most cases more than enough to deal, even with multiple enemies. As sets started being stronger, the need of slotting magical accuracy increased as well (Especially since with high MR sets, people preferred to slot MR stones), and seeing as weapon magical accuracy did not increase as much as the set magical resist stat, you understand why some glads or rangers started changing their builds in order to keep up with the increased MR stat of the new gears.

When your enemy has no magic resist, there is no need to slot magical accuracy, and that was the case back in the day.

But now that things have changed, and more people are generally knowledgeable at least about the simplest aspects of the game.. and gears are a lot better as well.. builds such as full hp or full attack will not longer cut it. And this still doesnt mean that people can't be creative, i know quite a few wealthy players here in game that have like 5 sets for their main chars, experimenting all the time. But if someone owns only 1 set, he better pick the best mainstream build (no not attack/crit ffs xd).


The uses of attack/crit are few:

1: Gladiator Aoe set with non extend spear/Gs, macro your attack/crit set, aoe the shit out of the zerg and afterwards switch back to your main set.

2: Sin set, requires decent ping (less than 200).

3: Ranger set (Must have 2 digit ping otherwise useless)

4: Pve dual wielder set (this is where attack/crit manastone shines).

 

Back in the day, we dont have shitty zerg like we have now.

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This is why i'm re-rolling back to ranger cuz they became so under-rated. Ranger was my one and only class in siel which i find so OP especially during old silentera pingpong days with unlimited mau (well that's also the time where a single sorc can wipe a zerg with 1 skill).

About the manastone, it's really depends on you in my opinion. Depends on you which build you're comfortable with. I remember a friend who plays ranger during 2.7 in lumiel who's using a full evasion build on his set while crit on weapon. He became a commander easily, even Ablazed playing glad at that time was annoyed with his full evasion.

If i were to choose a ranger manastone build, my best choice is crit/macc & crit/hp. Imo a lil' bit of hp helps a lot

 

att/crit is still very effective.. nowadays u need to aim at least 1k crit wih scrolls and buff..
crit/ma is helluva effective too, if ur cc's land then the only class ull have trouble are the plates..
hp build is kinda meh, so wut i have 15k hp, thats so easy to burn esp now. it may allow u to survive other rangers burst but u gotta aim for a i-can-kill-all-build
mr build? personally i dont wanna be defensive.. also, most ppl have high ma.. u need at least 2k mr to feel safe but even that could never be enough.
and the most important thing.. always pray to rng god.
/reei uses hide 1

 

Forget about manastone.

Lets KS'ing

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Yeah I agree completely, and given the situation on Gamez and aion as a whole, the mainstream builds are smart, I mean they're mainstream for a reason.

I just miss being able to choose and still be able to hit someone I guess lol

 

Well it matters for other people.. i mean alot of people.. and i know that you even you have a top kills,governor or legion top 1 it doesn't matter but atleast rangers can be seen as one of a top killer class so its not useless to me.

 

Kill count mainly proves how much time you spend on pvp..
rangers will always be in the kill rankings due to the nature of our class.
low or no cd buffs, range, burst rng which can ks from a zerg, hide, etc..
dun get me wrong, im not saying ppl at the kill rankings are not good
Its just that they most often pvp a lot than the rest.

 

am sorry , but i dont know miss this :3

[video=youtube;AkRvn0pXTiw]http/www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkRvn0pXTiw[/video]

 

Ranger Awesome ...

 

nope.. i want my build because i need sleep arrow and traps. i dont like cirt/accu. :biggrin:

 

Classes that are top killers are:

1. Rangers
2. Gunners
3. Sorcerers
4. Spiritmasters
5. Gladiators
6. Assassins
7. Templars
8. Chanters
9. Cleric
10. Songweavers

Correct me if I'm wrong. But really, I hate gunners and rangers. They got OP damages. As I observed, Rangers are soft but really powerful, same with gunners. But if you got good manastones, you wont die easily like some other rangers and gunners out there. Gladiators are good with one on one PVP and group hunt. Gladiators and Templars are good tankers. Chanters are good healers with buffs. But their heals do have limitations. Cleric are the best healers and also a killer. They heal and kill. But they lack on defensive buffs. Assassins are good on one on one PVP. Songweaver is a good killer and mana giver (that's what I think). They can heal and give mana. They too have many skills which got more damage. Sorcerers are best with a healer and a tanker. They can always attack you with a single or double skill (like Jorgeruga).

All classes got skills that other classes don't have (that's what they said and I believe it). I believe that no player or class is successful without the help of another player or class.

My speech got long enough. How pathetic.

 

Lucky for gunner that clubs retired early.

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Sozia hits pretty hard D:

 

We'll , that's my cousin's Sir Lucent

 

thanks captain.

 

Just pray Cami not gonna see dis, lol

People are just lazy to learn how to play Bard properly since going Gunner is just way more easy and convinient while Bard actually takes some effort.

Good Bards almost impossible to beat in 1vs1 and 2vs1 ^^

Dunno and putting Sorcs and SMs in front of Glads and Templars... something not fitting here...

xD