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Little things about Sieges

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by SonOfGod, Jun 1, 2014.

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  1. Illusions

    Illusions ß̫͒̃ڻᶇٴᶇٴŷ̪ Ķ̫͌ńĭģĥŧ̝̜᷈ Forum Legend

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    Agreed, this is the higher staff member's decision however there is really no need to swear. Keep it clean alright?

    To answer your ranting, Ely mostly destroy the siege gates to whatever defensive siege I was at, however the only reason they fail is because we keep going back until we delay them to kill Stallari. You do not even know me or how I play so please don't start assuming silly stuff :) Do you do this in every game though? If you can't beat the enemy you ask them to decrease the opposition's defenses just so you win? Doubt it works that way. I am just trying to calm you down that it can happen, and just because your alliance did not succeed, tough, go again till you win.

    Good luck on your sieges.

    P.S: Don't be class-ist(?) against Templars. <3
     
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  2. cocosul

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    not true. :))) if it do then is bug
     
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  3. Zephroine

    Zephroine ~The Sleeping Giant~

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    Better tell that to those Templars who keep pulling from behind the gate~ starting to get really annoying >.<
     
  4. pajkec2031

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    not on gamez....on gamez all skills are +7m....i can doom lure ppl 21m :D so yea...another bug...

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    oh yea and about temp skills i cant pull trugh gates with single target pull....but if i use AOE pull on gates or on ally who stands close to gate i get few targets closest to it inside trough wall...and that is the pull that all are doing...it would be bad to get ppl banned for it because u dont rly know if u will pull right or wrong target when u use that pull...

    and about sieges...how the fck did asmos manage to get ALL fortreses??? the answer is TEAM WORK! in our (ely) alliances half ppl dont even come and the leader of aliance is most of time quiet or if he give some commands nobody follow him....so that is the main reason we fail...when we have alliance together leader should tell us what to do, where to stand, when regroup,when push and when fall back a bit...if he cant do than he CAN'T be the person on top....but ppl on ely side dont care about that...most of them thinks "lets hit the door once so we get that 200GP then we are gone"... so untill elyos does not work together the door can have 1HP and we wont be able to get forts...is sad but true!
     
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  5. LordCurlyFry

    LordCurlyFry Yeah, I like curly fries. Forum Legend

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    You can check your radar. Nearly certain that when you target a player, his icon starts blinking on the minimap. Stop being ignorant, you're gonna get yourself banned, and everyone else who partakes in your... activities. For the siege weapons, Nyusagi is perfectly correct, not only do they exist precisely for the problem you have stated, but the only thing that's required to create them is time. However, I think that Sascha made a pretty good suggestion about putting them up for AP, even if it's like 1m each, it still helps. Although Army of Angels has like 100 stored up...

    As for the Gate, I don't see why you guys think it's such a problem. If an asmo/ely pulls/attacks somebody through the gate, I'll be online to kick them off the server and ban them for a time that's well after the siege ends. Less opposition makes your job easier. Why are you still complaining? It couldn't be that you guys want to attack people, do you? It's bug abuse. If you see anybody doing this, you can record them or take a picture (given that you have a combat log and sufficient proof), and they will be banned for the time allocated with their given abuse, which grows and grows every time you do it.

    My suggestion to everyone here: Don't do it.
     
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  6. cocosul

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    is not that...just no1 deffending forts!! is easy to get a fort without defence. just in a 100vs100 u can t win for sure! and one more things....ely side dont have healers....rarely i ve seen 1 or 2 in a full ally:D. but wellllllllll sieges are still a part of fun even if u loose sometimes:)
     
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  7. Tykimik

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    Yeah.. I ain't doing sieges until Temps stop abusing they're pull through gates. Most of the time people can't give solid dps at the gates for attackers because of that. Defenders have it easy at this point. Hoping they'll fix that soon.
     
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    use this to break the wall...xDD@@@@@
     
  9. cocosul

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    ok u'r funny now. do u mean in a MIDDLE of a war i will check my radar...? when is completly RED? instead of being a bad ass with abusers or so....better work hard to fix BUG? since they implemented GP system for sieges they should CHECK 1ST if sieges stuffs work good dont u think?
     
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    It's not just one person every now and then.. it's everyone Q.Q

    You can't go near a gate because someone is definitely gonna pull you, and that sucks cause because of that, glads and temps can't use siegebreaker which kind of helps with the whole fort situation D:

    That leaves only the ranged classes to attack, and the melee classes auto attack with a bow.. I mean I'll throw all my dots on the gate but how much damage can I do to it compared to a dual wielding glad with crit for example..
     
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    Well they have a point since it is quite unfair. I don't tend to use it as I just go outside of the gate to lure some of the attackers away :p But yeah most of us are checking our radars I believe haha.

    Plus don't blame them about it, no game in the world is perfect and to be honest, Aion is far from perfect. Also remember, Gamez doesn't have a whole studio to themselves for development like Dice or 343.

    Give it time and as Curly said, just report them, won't hurt. Teamwork is the key to it anyway.
     
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    Dice has a whole studio to themselves for development and still Battlefield 4 is 10 times buggier than Aion... Q-Q
     
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    I know that I check my radar when I'm doing a siege. If you aren't capable of that, I suggest you just target the gate and nothing else. As for the bug itself, there are people working on it as we speak. If you are so certain that this bug is as easy as you make it sound, perhaps you can run a server, and we can laugh at all of the bugs on yours.

    And yes, I try to be funny every now and then. Just so you know, now is not one of those moments.

    Me and Gabi already have planned to be on our gms as much as possible during sieges, even if it means to just leave our characters to afk in the middle of our zerg. However, it's a whole lot easier when there's a LOT of proof flying around for the people it may concern. But yes, it is bugged, it is being worked on, and at the moment, this is the best we can do. I will admit that having siege engines would help greatly, mainly since the gates are really supposed to be down in the first 15 minutes, and putting them up to buy would be a great help to many people here, including myself.

    In hindsight, if any of you do get pulled/feared/etc, just resurrect and rest assured that the player who did that to you probably isn't on the server anymore, and probably won't be for the next one, either.
     
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    hmmm....there was a time when brave elyos took down 2 gates and empty boss for 50% with a lot of time left to kill it...then some asmos came and kill all those ely :D...when that happened ely was so sad that they couldent regroup so they went back there 1 by 1 to suicide....is a true story! i was there xD

    oh and btw how many asmos goes to sige? in % ?? i think about 90% of all online....and how many elyos goes there??? 30%? 40%?

    and about healers is true... is hard to get 2 clerics in alli with 24ppl on ely side...on asmo there is a lot of clerics but i think that is not so big problem if elyos would organize themselves...2 temps can pull cleric 50m away from group and kill it...so they cant loci him...but for that clerics must be branded (i hope somebody know what brands are and how u select brands??!!??...no...is not click with mouse on person who have nr. 1 above his head XDDD)...i dont understand why ppl are not using that to target....if u are hitting temp 2 clerics will heal him...if u pull cleric and then pull him again more back so they wont ress him and even if temp suicide for it is WORTH IT! Elyos need tactic! asmo learned it because there was always more ely in PVP and they needed to organize...now when ely should do the same...we are just complaining and looking excuses in bugs and "hackers"....
     
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    Haha true however I do enjoy getting a good 120+ / 5 on Operation Metro :p

    And to be honest I barely experience any bugs =o It seems that with these past few patches they actually did...something xD
     
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    Dude if u are playing on this server for some time u noticed that before the update no one botherred to take forts beacause they do not really need them , but now its diferrent .
    An one more thing asmos took all forts with no ellys defending them .
    Wen u have a door that has hp meant for a lot of players and u are on a low crowd server ....its an 100% fain wen u have asmos pulling u tru gates and delaing u.
    the siege weapons die like in 2-3 hits.
    on retail a siege weapon has like 200k hp here 3k ?at most .

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    yea i know about that for some time thats krazy...
    on retail i played on Kahrun NA and thats the least popolated server has 5kely/5,6k asmos but we had sieges 400 and more vs 400 or something like that .and its really really hard to kill a siege weapon there , better to kill the player with the siege weapon .
     
  18. cocosul

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    is ok with time things will be fine. guards are also OP as fk and even if u kill them respawn fast back. when i was on kata siege there was about 20 guards rangers which hitting 2/3/4k each hit and asmos behind of them. wasnt like that before last update when asmos took fort! i suggest to few of u....go cleric on sieges so u can support groups. i do it also even if i have more fun with sorc:D
     
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  19. Illusions

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    This is not retail my friend. It's a private server built for PVP purposes. You were complaining about making something weaker, now you want defensive weapons to be stronger? -wat nao- You are more indecisive than IGLA rockets in Battlefield.
     
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    Well elyos got have sometimes a very good aliance´s, but if u have 70% of their players a melle classes and u cant go to the gate its a total fail.
    I tryed the Siege weapon yesterday, always destroeyed in two minutes so-waste of time.

    The pulling and hiting trough gate is fail aswell cuz asmos can go back in time, but if asmo pull ely = die and in 90% u must go again from obelisk.

    About the number of asmos, in the time when fortress Up asmo have alot of more players(this is 100% true and no one can say im lie ), and dont forget deffending is more easy than attack. Especialy here if u destroying one gate 20 the 2nd 30 mins, cuz more asmo come for free GP :D


    To u Illusions. i Like if ure a asmo and u say something about teamwork or its a 100% doable if u only defending xD especialy in Reshanta im and my teammates getting zergs :D So dont say its ok to attack the gate if u dont do it and u only stay in back and waiting to ur templars after pulling someone xD

    About the GP, i realy dont know the point of them, cuz in kills u dont get it from the player this only fading by the time, AP is kinda useles now. Some players say its balanced now...ehm no definitely: u see some asmo generals and high ranks and same on ely side cuz every idiot now can take rank...sorry to the good players but its true :D And in old times Fortres are worked for some medals and to gear up, here no.

    About the Bug fixes. Idk maybe players Pay alot for gears and game content, i accept the top gears and wepons and i accept he fixing something take a time, But this is ridiculous i cant belive he this is a good support.


    Mine result is that:

    This server start fall down if Admins dont change their mind and dont do something to PPL get a way more fun and things to can do ingame.
    SHop is ok i 100% accept them maybe is litle OP on Values but ok.
    Every day we do some pvp, try sieges, but what to do next ? There is no more proggres alot of items are blocked for shop=fun ?? Rly no.

    GamezAion is a more and more based on money and im stil not se where the money going do u invest some to the server or WTF!

    Dont tell me im only cry or he if im ely and losing i get only angry i accept lose if someone is better but this started be a unbalanced much, i play alot of another MMOrpg on custom servers and i pay alot and i see any upghrades on them, but here no...how its possible....please i realy want see answer :)


    Sorry to all for mine english i know its very bad and thats a not my language :)

    Thanks :)

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    SMall add to the number of asmos....and i hate many elyos players for this....Elyos lossing so why try something lets switch to asmo side and gett free GP. thats LOL and making me a Devil angry.
     
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