@Lumiel's Templars

selfbuffed ( food and stuff ) +15 taha gs with +5 attack non fused



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I am sure some badassed Temp with ABG+MCD fuse will do lil more dmg. . probly caping at 15k ....

 

Lol.... 11k....

 

Know your enemy. Someone famous said that, Shih Tzu. LOL!

The more I think about break power being buggy, it might not be reducing for armor rating. Seems it does what it does to all armor types, cloth, leather, chain, and plate. Check that.

 

Let's spam the BP ^^ 3bp in 1 sec

 

the plate must not be reduce the def rating because that's how plate does by do tanking. i have no problem dealing to templar i got pawned many of them i'm using my glad. just slot more ms accu in your set you will see the difference.

prolly the Brake Power skill must be nerf or minimize the damage coz it soo OP now even in Siel server

 

lol @ break power III from sabrina.

 

I don't know why but i'm always the first target...qq T_T

 

cuz they hate u

BTW.. i have templar crit + accu i deal big damage really but this happend---.greendolphing come.. he is full block and full mr (WTF) with his mace las time we fight he make 6800 with BP are u crazy 6800 when im full accu and crit i deal 5k - 8k on cloth and 4k - 6- sometimes on plate / chain with Greatsword--- and he use his mace haha thats make me angry single hit i inflic 10,20,90, critical and bum. i got .stun..shieldburst bp and die guy..but yes BP is so wrong nowadays we all know.. just put MR go doom lure ..shieldburst..ba bay..

. Lumiel . Glad . Sempachi .​

 

I see sorcs all day using robe of cold II, i even open a private store to tell em while they try to hit me


That's gamez. Random noob sees a broken/op class, creates one too. Half of the Sorcs/Templars/Glads are newbs like this one

 

But thats a good news for us.. u know? >_>b

 

First, we need to set a few things straight. Hitting a high-end crit on a dummy really proves nothing at all. +10 Lannok GS players on retail can do 3.5-4k+ damage with a Non-High end Crit vs PvP geared players. Comprehend now that Temps here wield +15 ABG GS which obviously is going to scale even higher.

Take again into the factor that Retail has a 50% PvP Damage Reduction as well, so take into account that even with a 50% reduction, they can still do over 4k+ damage with a Non-PvP GS. Damage reduction from what I can remember in Gamez is not 50% PvP reduction, so also take that into account.

When you put all of that together, it makes more sense, instead of senseless "Omgosh, its so OP". To simply initiate BP is no small task considering you need to have a true stun in order to get the KD to land, otherwise Temps natural KD is no remotely as effective as a Glads and of course BP will be more potent in Group PvP, because of the greater chances of it occurring.

Please look at the entire spectrum before you come to the conclusion that its OP. The tactics deployed with BP group is a retail aspect and its damage is not off the wall when you consider how much retail damage of BP is with a significantly greater PvP damage reduction in contrast to our own.

 

how can you be so certain about the retail video when you don't even know what the target(receiving end) was wearing. you know the weapon was lannok but do you even have proof that it's lannok? what if it was remodeled or what if the target was not wearing pvp gear? can you prove it?

the only way to prove that it's broken or not is a controlled test. not some claims that it's real cause you see the pvp video.

 

U think 9k dmg vs chanter full abg(u can find the pict on forum) from a normal stigma with 16sec CD it's not OP when the LB 4kDP with 1h CD or all the others ultimate skills are only 7k max(Glacial, CL)? Don't forget that we have pvp defense and the best gear too.

 

hmm... not sure if this is real or trolling.

 

Players do have profiles up with the main weapons that they use It also isn't just one single player, but multiple players who've shown/listed their damage ratios with BP on retail. What would they need to lie for? Go to either official retail or Aionsource and gather the information yourself, I'm sick and tired of having to post the same threads 24/7 over and over (because I've done it nearly 10+ times in 23048923409 other BP complaint threads) simply because you and a few others refuse to gather the information yourself to make any valid judgment.

Videos are a source of proof, and if you disbelieve it, then PM the provider of that video and they will tell you his/her equipment on official retail and their consistent damage of BP vs PvP to non-PvPed geared.

Here's a thread of Klute making his damage statements when using only a Trioran GS with 590 attack only
Question on Break Power - AionSource.com - Powered by the Tower of Eternity

"average damage is 3.3k - 3.7k <- pvp geared opponents
minimum is about 2.8k? <- no buffs good geared opponent
maximum 4.2-4.5k <- crap gear fully buffed"

Notice how Klute takes the notion to state "average" and not High-End, but average. Yet this is on official which btw also has higher PvP defense. Not to mention, the damage ratios that they show within this thread, all of them were achieved before the introduction of Eternal Weapons, and some of them noted to not use shards either.

Their are controlled test done within Gamez that has taken into account the most reliable source for the BP damage closest to Retail. Their was a reason why Break Power was already nerfed before, because it was doing, way, way too much damage then it currently did.

I've questioned Evilset and their formula's on more then one occasion before only to come out realizing that it was indeed closer to the corrected correlations of retail (MA vs MR debate mind you). It's not like they just grabbed this out of the blue and said "Hey we'll make BP powerful".

BP is supposed to be powerful, and again, before you say we need a control test, then why don't you turn the tables around and prove how its "overpowered" in contrast to its retail counterpart.

So here are some things that we do know...

1. In retail Players can do 3.5k-4k+ damage with Break Power using +10 Non-PvP Great Sword vs PvP geared players.

2. Retail has a Damage Reduction of 50% for PvP while Gamez does not (<--- Huge Difference because on retail a fully geared ABG player will have greater damage reduction vs PvP Weapons vs a Gamez player of similar value).

3. With the PvP Reduction being less, sporting full ABG set is not going to allow damage reduction to match or equal to that of retail because the PvP reduction is not the same, hence damage in Gamez will be greater.

4. Majority of high-end PvP Temps have access to full ABG sets and additional +15 ABG GS fused.

5. Gamez Templars will for the most part have continuous resources for Shards, food, scrolls etc, etc to be fully buff all the time where as retail they do not (certain PvP videos of retail Temp glaring show that they don't fully buff 24/7 in the same case as Gamez Temps).


When you gather all of that together it starts to make more sense because not only does Gamez have lower PvP damage reduction which in turn will counter the statement of "I have full ABG but I still get hit by BP for so much, how so" comments need to be put to sleep. If you can't understand the significance of having 50% reduction vs our own Gamez which I'm told is much less, that tells you why everything hurts more.

Gamez Temps not only have the advantage of Less PvP damage reduction, but many are equipped with the best +15 PvP GS around and when you top it off with 24/7 constant buffs due to food/scrolls or whatever it doesn't seem far fetched at all.

Just my Templar only when fully buff I have over 800 Crit + 1.1k+ Attack or whatever, and the majority of Temps on retail to obtain that scale is only but a handful, however within Gamez, I'm many Temps are capable of achieving the same effect.

Another False statement that needs to be put to sleep as well is the statement that Temps can do sickening damage even with MR set. Although true only in the case of BP, the damage is very tame, because Break Power works more coinciding with Crit and Atk Power, so if you are running full MR, the damage ratio of BP will not be as high, not to mention landing a KD will be even less because you need crits in order for a KD to occur without stun/shield.

Lastly doing the high-end damage of BP is never consistent. I'm a purist when it comes to Temp and I rarely get to see that 5k+ BP that everyone keeps complaining about, much less getting to land it in 1v1 which is incredibly difficult. Stop pretending that BP can be landed every 30 seconds, which is a joke. You need a KD, and getting that in 1v1 situations up against smart players is not easy. Only in zergs does BP have greater potential, however so does 203948230948 other skills.

For those that disagree, go on official, gather up the most accurate information about Break Power and showcase it to evilset or an Admin, and let them compare it with Gamez and please also take the PvP damage reduction and all other facets into account because 90% of you whom complain about BP never bother to do so anyhow. From what I gathered a few months back Evilset and all gathered the information about BP, Ma vs MR, etc, etc from credible retail sources.

 

your statement still does not prove or show if they are hitting someone pvp geared or not. character profile shows what is currently equipped. how can you prove what their target was wearing when they hit them with BP?

PVP videos from retail are not a viable source of information even if they came from retail.

null and void.

 

Too much exaggeration really. Try landing BP while buffed (Empyrean & Divine Fury), this is the only time that it might deal 6k damage if its crits on a target with equal gear. You have 30 seconds to do it. After that, your buff goes off and have to wait 3 minutes for the buff's cool down. Without those damage buffs, BP isn't going to deal so much damage as some of the people here are being exaggerated about especially if the one doing it is not using attack/crit build.

You want BP to hit the same as it does on retail not considering that most of the players here has ABG Greatsword and accessories unlike in retail. You want BP to hit the same as it does on retail but rejects the proof coming from retail itself, what to do?

Yes, BP has 16 seconds cool down but the one that makes it hit harder (buffs) has 3 minutes cool down and the other is 1 minute and 30 seconds. I see most people here thinks landing BP is so easy as it sounds. Do you seriously think you can land BP without fail every 16 or 30 seconds in 1v1?

 

Everybody it's talking about retail...i wanna see the 9k dmg on retail and don't talk again about 50% reduction because the others skills are identical...i mean the damage. Wanna talk about retail? What's the dmg on retail for Glacial/Aether/CL and what's the dmg here? If u are talking again about -50% shit reduction it means glacial/aether/CL needs to hit on gamez with 15k...right?

 

Peace111!!

 

55 cleric solo pvp - YouTube

8:37 it's 5k dmg non critical(i can hit only 3-4k non crit on gamez)

So if ur theory it's right about -50% dmg reduction on retail...i should hit 15k dmg crit with CL on gamez Or it's apply only for BP?

U will see here that dmg its almost identical with gamez or even higher. Ofc that temp like u love the 9k dmg from BP...u think this is normal...i will say it's normal when i will hit 15k with CL.(i have CD 2min...so it's the same shit like ur buff CD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwP_w-tFgVc&feature=watch_response