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Matched up agains glad/temp

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Zeiko, Sep 20, 2013.

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  1. vesiinabox

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    cleric has a chance to survive an sm not really a chance to kill an sm however.

    Bind stops pistols, silence stops Cannon skills, and they arnt affected by Blind not Bind...two different things.

    And you've never fought a spiritmaster at the max if you think a glad stands even a 1% chance against an sm lol.
     
  2. Razor

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    I'll have to give it to Alphaomega, though his statements are only correct assuming both himself and the Gladiator are using full stigmas. Spiritmasters have an obvious advantage of Siel's stigma system. Often rephrased as imbalanced.
     
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    Sins Can 100% dominate a glad if Doing the right rotation.

    Temps QQ and QQ again
     
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  4. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    actually I use a stigma combo on my sm so same thing...lol.
     
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    fear combo !
     
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    Ok, Mr. plays on a full Stigma Server with low ping.
     
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    why dont you just fight in-game, Ill buy Noble Sky Dragon Food or some Perer Jelly while watching
     
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    SM's on that server are much more nerfed then they are here (ex. can't remove scrolls). In most legit situations, with both players knowing what they are doing and going hard, SM's normally and should come out on top. In a Gamez Siel version, its a GG no matter what (Spirit sub + Hand of Topor).

    [video=youtube;sJRfQJhgCwY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJRfQJhgCwY&amp;feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
  10. vesiinabox

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    VS a glad you use one of two pets Earth or Water first of all. There 2 main differences in Spiritmaster on stimga vs full 1. they have 2 extra debuffs Usually like withering gloom and infernal blight and second Heals for your pet which you dont need because you have a 4k heal every 10 seconds anyways...1 v 1 the 4k heal is more than enough especially since you dont need spirit sub in 1 v 1 situations to begin with.....On top of that the damn sm doesnt know how to kite that you are fighting hes letting you get right up on him lol...And its not that SMs cant remove scrolls there its the Scrolls cant be removed because they are special scrolls...:p

    Btw its Spirit Hypnosis :3 if you mean the 17 second pvp sleep.
     
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    Well, that SM in this Video is terrible..

    As for Gladiator beating SM, as long you cover your Strengthen Wings with Wall of Steel++ and got your run-speed scroll keybound + play with SWB&Sharp Strike build you can destroy every SM in 10sec+, if that SM in the Video was any good he would've destroyed you since u didnt went for Ariel/Stumble right after his Stone Skin broke.

    But it's okay, there's only like 3 Gladiators i know which actually know how to fight SMs, there's also a almost 100% way to beat Sorcs as Gladiator but i wont mention that secret :'D stuff like that you wont ever learn on Gamez
     
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    me too i like the plate class...
     
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    beserk + bow when binded works wonders...And please do tell how a glad can survive long enough to even do anything to an sm when you can nuke a glad in under 10 seconds with an sm...about 6 -8 seconds. More for the Mr builds.

    Spirtmasters can remove a total of 8 buffs in 1 second every 20-30 seconds (1 nonmovable 0.6 sec cast)...more if you use the Aoe dispel...seeing as u are wanting to bury your strengthen wings (which btw is 50% only resist chance *countered by Ma*) You would take around 2500 damage (non crit) from ignite aether and about another 2500 -4500 from Magic Implosion + aegis breaker and Erosion (about 1000) between ignite aether and Magic implosion to cancel the chain... Now that all takes around 1 second to do from there comes your chance to be slowed by chain of earth and about another 1k damage from that + the stun (Unless you have used and correctly buried Unwavering Devotion so comes down to a 20% chance to be stunned by chain of earth (Again countered by MA). After that Again Comes Erosion another 1K dmg... Now just from this amout of time (about 1 and a half seconds you have probably received right around 8000 damage or more depending on crits ETC ETC. and that is just the beginning chain. Any decent SM is going to have a second stone skin up so unless you can do about 4600 + damage in 1.5 seconds on a glad (doable with crits) You stand no chance because you will die in one silence/ bind.

    Also...Dont need to slow the glad at all or stun them...Wing root the ***** from 40 meters away, erosion when they hit 25 meters and then bam bind ...and they will sit there like retards while you cast fear 1 on their ass. I mean if you want to be cocky... Like i said there's numerous different ways to kill a gladiator. And while You depend on full skill to kill a spiritmaster we use less than half our skills to kill you so ....i mean its not actually winning if the person isnt trying at full strength.
     
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    Lol 100% right on.

    In my opinion gladiator is 1 of the easiest classes to destroy as a spiritmaster for me anyway.

    Any class can kill a glad or templar depending on how you play it.

    I been playing songweaver for a few weeks now and I can literally destroy and glad/temp even if they full buff - I have actually done 5-7k normal hits with my chain skills and up to 10k crits which is really good damage.

    I actually remember killing a 5 templar in ambassador gear and tons of buffs within 5-10 seconds and I'm not even a MB build infact I'm full ma so yeah if you go bard/sm I don't recommend doing full MB really don't need it.

    They are sort of similar to sm - 2 dots, bind/silence - nuke however there's alot of combos for songweaver.

    So in my opinion if you really want to kill a temp/glad fast and easy then you should probably go spiritmaster as it's abit easier to get then songweaver because of fear/debuffs and spirit stub etc of course.

    Just choose a class what feels right for you. ;)
     
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    Which isn't really something to be proud of.
     
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    Please do tell me something that is something to be proud of on gamezaion...I always do love your intelligent remarks.
     
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    Beat a good temp/glad with sin / ranger
    Beat a good sin/ranger with a sorc
    Beat a good (!?) SM with any class

    Play a class that doesn't require only 1 hand.

    AT LEAST PLAY ON A SERVER LIKE HOW AION IS SUPPOSE TO BE AND NOT WITH ALL SKILLS (?)

    Should I continue?
     
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    Why does every single thread become a lumiel vs siel shit or a "players who hate SM vs the SM" shit?

    No dont get me wrong, ive already taken my pop corn and i do enjoy this. But still wondering why this happens ..


    And on topic, you really cant tell if a player will win against any opponent but some classes have higher chance of winning than others. And definitely there is no such thing as 100% chance to win, if both players know how to play, no matter their class then they both have a chance to win (im not saying that the chances are equal, but its still there).

    I can give you a few simple examples from my own experience. As a templar, i just laugh when i see a sorcerer.. and of course most of the time i really have no idea how skilled they are so i do my usual combo, sometimes though i encounter some full MA sorcerers who know their shit and give me a hard time, imagine an 1+minute fight against a sorcerer and very rarely i end up surviving with 15% hp or something (in the case where they are really skilled).

    Same thing can happen with all the other classes, really.
     
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    Well the whole sorc thing isn't actually that hard and the beating a good temp with ranger isnt possible because if the temp was good he wouldn't die to a ranger its like a paradox.
    I've played on other servers thanks its too easy to win.
    Also the fact that you seem to think that aion should be played only one way speaks to how closed minded you really are. I've played retail servers, other private servers other than gamez each a unique experience (tbh others that are no longer around where more fun) but moving on. Gamez Aion is for those who don't want to be play Aion like its "Meant" to be played even your precious Lumiel isn't completely stigma so technically I could pull the same bullshit responses that you do every time.

    Same as Bud says Aion is an RNG game most fights come down to purely rng two pro temps battling it out Purely RNG (random number game) who gets the most crits who gets the most Remove shock heals, what builds do they have?...etc etc. And there will always be those freaky low percent occurrences that happen that tip the fight in another persons favor

    Since you decided to add this little tidbit There is no class that requires only one hand...lol at your attempt at sarcasm.
    There are no Spiritmasters on siel (OMERGERD FULL SKILLS) that can beat any of my characters so come again?
     
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    nom nom Templars :3
     
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