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Discussion in 'Questions' started by Avaliable, May 1, 2013.

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  1. Avaliable

    Avaliable YIC - INACTIVE

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    have u played on retail? cuz ur saying retail is stupid e.e but this is a private server so things are different
     
  2. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    There is no consistency, I can't tell you for sure unless I saw their server files. Take a look at the code here for the heartbands (in open source server files I have)
    [Event] Heart Headband (30 days) - Items - Aion
    Code:
    <item_template id="125040060" level="1" mask="4680" max_stack_count="1" item_type="NORMAL" item_category="HEART_HEAD" quality="COMMON" price="5" restrict="1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1" cash_item="2" slot="4" equipment_type="ARMOR" expire_mins="43201" desc="1539541"/>
    
    Do notice the parameter expire_mins="43201", they can freely edit the time it expires server side. Now look at the same item client side
    Code:
    <client_item>
        <id>125040060</id>
        <name>world_event_head_devaday_01_30day</name>
        <desc>STR_WORLD_EVENT_HEAD_DEVADAY_01_30DAY</desc>
        <desc_long>STR_WORLD_EVENT_HEAD_DEVADAY_01_30DAY_DESC</desc_long>
        <armor_type>no_armor</armor_type>
        <item_type>normal</item_type>
        <material>mat_flesh</material>
        <icon_name>icon_item_heart_head_01</icon_name>
        <price>5</price>
        <max_stack_count>1</max_stack_count>
        <equipment_slots>head</equipment_slots>
        <dodge>0</dodge>
        <quality>common</quality>
        <level>1</level>
        <magical_resist>0</magical_resist>
        <physical_defend>0</physical_defend>
        <lore>FALSE</lore>
        <can_exchange>TRUE</can_exchange>
        <can_sell_to_npc>TRUE</can_sell_to_npc>
        <can_deposit_to_character_warehouse>TRUE</can_deposit_to_character_warehouse>
        <can_deposit_to_account_warehouse>TRUE</can_deposit_to_account_warehouse>
        <can_deposit_to_guild_warehouse>TRUE</can_deposit_to_guild_warehouse>
        <breakable>TRUE</breakable>
        <soul_bind>FALSE</soul_bind>
        <remove_when_logout>FALSE</remove_when_logout>
        <gender_permitted>all</gender_permitted>
        <warrior>1</warrior>
        <scout>1</scout>
        <mage>1</mage>
        <cleric>1</cleric>
        <fighter>1</fighter>
        <knight>1</knight>
        <assassin>1</assassin>
        <ranger>1</ranger>
        <wizard>1</wizard>
        <elementalist>1</elementalist>
        <chanter>1</chanter>
        <priest>1</priest>
        <option_slot_value>0</option_slot_value>
        <special_slot_value>0</special_slot_value>
        <option_slot_bonus>0</option_slot_bonus>
        <bonus_apply>equip</bonus_apply>
        <no_enchant>TRUE</no_enchant>
        <max_enchant_value>0</max_enchant_value>
        <cannot_changeskin>0</cannot_changeskin>
        <ui_sound_type>Sounds/item/item_def_cloth</ui_sound_type>
        <cash_item>2</cash_item>
        <can_split>FALSE</can_split>
        <item_drop_permitted>FALSE</item_drop_permitted>
        <expire_time>43201</expire_time>
        <can_ap_extraction>FALSE</can_ap_extraction>
        <mesh>CL_CASH_Heart_Head_01</mesh>
        <mesh_change>0</mesh_change>
        <default_color_m>255,30,0</default_color_m>
        <default_color_f>255,30,0</default_color_f>
        <can_dye>1</can_dye>
        <race_permitted>pc_light pc_dark</race_permitted>
      </client_item>
    
    Notice <expire_time>43201</expire_time>, the client basically handles what it shows to you while the server is the one that determines the true duration. I checked the wings you mentioned and they have the exact same parameter. If you wanna see the parameters for these
    Ghostly Angel Wings Skin (30 days) - Items - Aion
    Code:
    <client_item>
        <id>187060070</id>
        <name>wing_angel_element_30days</name>
        <desc>STR_wing_angel_element_30days</desc>
        <desc_long>STR_wing_cash_30days_DESC</desc_long>
        <armor_type>clothes</armor_type>
        <item_type>normal</item_type>
        <equip_type>0</equip_type>
        <mesh>Wing_E02aTwhite</mesh>
        <material>mat_flesh</material>
        <icon_name>Icon_Item_Feather01</icon_name>
        <price>5</price>
        <max_stack_count>1</max_stack_count>
        <equipment_slots>wing</equipment_slots>
        <dodge>0</dodge>
        <quality>common</quality>
        <level>30</level>
        <lore>FALSE</lore>
        <can_exchange>TRUE</can_exchange>
        <can_sell_to_npc>TRUE</can_sell_to_npc>
        <can_deposit_to_character_warehouse>TRUE</can_deposit_to_character_warehouse>
        <can_deposit_to_account_warehouse>TRUE</can_deposit_to_account_warehouse>
        <can_deposit_to_guild_warehouse>TRUE</can_deposit_to_guild_warehouse>
        <breakable>TRUE</breakable>
        <soul_bind>FALSE</soul_bind>
        <remove_when_logout>FALSE</remove_when_logout>
        <gender_permitted>all</gender_permitted>
        <warrior>30</warrior>
        <scout>30</scout>
        <mage>30</mage>
        <cleric>30</cleric>
        <fighter>30</fighter>
        <knight>30</knight>
        <assassin>30</assassin>
        <ranger>30</ranger>
        <wizard>30</wizard>
        <elementalist>30</elementalist>
        <chanter>30</chanter>
        <priest>30</priest>
        <option_slot_bonus>0</option_slot_bonus>
        <bonus_apply>equip</bonus_apply>
        <difficulty>Normal</difficulty>
        <no_enchant>TRUE</no_enchant>
        <cannot_changeskin>0</cannot_changeskin>
        <extract_skin_type>0</extract_skin_type>
        <cash_available_minute>43201</cash_available_minute>
        <can_dye>1</can_dye>
        <ui_sound_type>Sounds/item/item_def_cloth</ui_sound_type>
        <cash_item>2</cash_item>
        <can_split>FALSE</can_split>
        <confirm_to_delete_cash_item>TRUE</confirm_to_delete_cash_item>
        <item_drop_permitted>FALSE</item_drop_permitted>
        <scale>1.000000</scale>
        <can_ap_extraction>FALSE</can_ap_extraction>
        <race_permitted>pc_light pc_dark</race_permitted>
      </client_item>
    
    Again, I think they replace timers for items on 1 by 1 basis, not using the "replace all" function since they might want to keep some items time limited on purpose. You would have to ask them to check this file and tell you

    ...\game\data\static_data\items\item_templates.xml
     
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  3. Witch

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    Didn't say retail was stupid ;p and Ik on private server things are different thats why I said the dev's on this server probably removed the 30 day expire feature but it doesn't appear in-game

    as I said ask admin or an aion dev or just buy the wings and test it out for your self.
     
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    Uehara イシ-サマ。(´ε` ) Forum Legend

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    When Senior AM Camila gave me the Black Angel wings for my AM toon, I asked her about the 30 days expiration and she said if I don't remodel it on my wings, it will disappear, and so I did. When Senior AM Puddles gave me the rest of the Angel Wings series (the White, Transparent and Red) she gave me 3 other wings. I asked her about the 30 days expiration again and she said that she gave me the 3 extra wings so I can remodel the Angel wings to that.

    So this pretty much answers your question. 30 days expiration makes the wings disappear if you do NOT use it by remodelling it to an another wing. And the skin stays permanent once you remodel it.
     
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  5. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    In that case it just means that they did not touch the xml I linked, but instead chose to make remodels disregard duration parameters xd. I am pretty sure on retail those skins only last 30 days (so they can keep making money). Another popular trend on retail is the new introduction of "one time" remodels. As in you cant carry over the skin on another item when you are done with it. I don't know how gamez handles these.
     
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    Uehara イシ-サマ。(´ε` ) Forum Legend

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    If they disappear even after remodelling due to the 30 days expiration I am sure people are going to rage. They are great looking wings and to think they will only last for 30 days remodelled or not would be really frustrating and waste of credits (1k) once purchased.
     
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    Considering the 2 possibilities, I bought one wing and remodeled it to my extra wings of the circle 1.

    If it doesnt disappear after 30 days, well good for me :)
    If it does. Well atleast we know the answer to this question.


    But there's one more question I have in mind. What if you remodeled it to a wing and lets say Wings of the Circle and it's said to disappear after 30 days. Would my Wings of the Circle disappear too?

    These 2 questions are about to be answered after 30 days time so hold yer horses and calm yo tits :)
     
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    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    In that case I wonder what the purpose of the "30 days" thing is in the first place lol, would seem pretty useless. The skin on retail only costs 640 ncoins and look at the screenshot

    [​IMG]

    "used to modify appearance of your gear for 30 days"
     
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    Uehara イシ-サマ。(´ε` ) Forum Legend

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    I wasn't really told if the remodel actually stays permanent. I just thought of it logically since; SAM Puddles wont give me 3 extra more wings when she gave me the 3 Angel Wings where I can remodel them if by 30 days it will just disappear. I should have just used the original Angel wings as they are if that was the case.

    I can answer a really accurate answer on this disappearance in 2-3 days because by then it will be the 30 days of my Black Angel Wings on my WoC2.

    And no. I don't think that IF ever you lose the skin, you will lose the wings used as the target item of the skin.
     
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    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    Yea you wont lose the wings lol. Pretty sure on gamez at least you shouldn't even lose the skin (as long as it is skinned on actual items, seems like unless you skin it then retail rules apply). However I do think the original concept was to have them expire after 30 days of using them (aka keeps them rare, make money off of rich kids). Really, you clearly buy a skin to use it and the item isn't even tradeable on retail so the 30 days thing would have no purpose. It would actually make people rage for losing items they did not get to use yet if it was to be permanent after skinning it.
     
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    i've got those wings on my Am toon since they came out (when 3.5 was introduced). thats way more then 30 days. i'd definitively say, they do not disappear.
     
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