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New PVP System

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by piscoumorreu, Oct 7, 2013.

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  1. nicolas0707

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    solo in zerg is like pvping solo, the only difference is ur not the only 1 hitting the opposite side but 5-15 ppl others are too at same time, and if u die ur on ur own no1 will ress u or heal u or guard u if u are getting hit, so ya pvping is zerg is kinda solo :kewl:
     
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    I came when I switched to 4.0 all manastones of my set, I left full MR (set and weapon), I did not like ... although I resist, endure more skills it took me a long time to be able to kill a guy in 1 vs 1 ... then decided to move again, I left full MA / MR (set) and MB / MR (weapon), not improved much but I resisted as many skills as before and of course my damage was not so high as before ... then I changed back to what I was always ... quite a good MA and MB.
    I am a SORCERER :smile:

    What about PvP map of Katalam, I think bad, crap, where you let the enemy with 1000 HP and he enters the area of peace, and the problem is not only that this is all just get on top of the map ... nor esperimentar down a bit they do not go ... this facilitates the further concetraçao zerg ... you guys be complaining that Gamez has only zerg, but you guys do not provide another mode of PvP, ya it contributes pa ra it, over and over suggestions have already been given to go and try might damage in PvP, but nobody tries ... I've been there several times and always with anyone ... If anyone try to change the map will be Alente and Carl that will ban the entry of players Katalam :smile:
     
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    well banning is not gonna happen for sure , as the map is created for pvp purpose, its just tht safe zones right next to each other suck, and as for tht matter even if u do take out the Katalam map there is Danaria and other places but atleast the safe zones will not be 2 meters away from eachother, cause i remember inggison pvp , runing back and forth from altar of avriace and other fort and so on, Ping pong pvp there too, the best part was there was no close safe zone to run to, u were either going to be chased and die sooner or later or manage to get away with it.
     
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    Like I said let's try all in one weekend to make a day of PvP might damage ... It is the best map created until now, in my opinion ...
    I've even gave some segestao AM / SAM / HAM make an event as it had in Lumiel ''Assaut on Tiamaranta's Eye'', because only then be able to try to improve PvP
     
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    Your so cute :3

    Soloing on melee class is still very possible. As for zergs.. no problem. Zerg them back. Who gives a sht if ppl call u a zerger lol. If I wanted to I can be the dirtiest zerger if I wanted to on my glad... But at the same time have some pride and just Leave opponents who are getting chased by like 5 v 1 it's like really no point in making that 1 person pvp worse for them... I do that all the time lol. I sit there and watch till they die but when that happens to me ppl don't give a sht.. So why should I? So... I just zerg them back.
     
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    Yep.

    You are supposed to have fun, if you do not have fun because the zergs then instead of spending time and energy complaining, is to just better leave. If I can find a 1v1, I try my best to fight in the best way I can, if I am in the middle of a zerg... sure no prob I ll just smash my face in the keyboard and laugh.

    I cannot see the point in any other type of resentful negative behavior within a game.
     
  9. cocosul

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    i wasnt in katalan like 1 mounth:D ...i preffer belu still..sometimes zergs there too but at last is a fast death/kill ^^ and yeh there at last u can escape somehow by a zerg with "run faster than wind" style:D
     
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    zakku44 Annoying Zergling

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    Zerg.... such a lovely word. XD
     
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  11. cocosul

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    still starcraft zerg moar amazing than:D i remember 15 years ago.....1st game play on startcraft with zerg was WOW ...so many^^
     
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    Hehe even 2 v 1 zerg player still has potential to win in starcraft wahah! Love it

    [video=youtube;Lq74R7wWAnQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq74R7wWAnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
     
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    Speaking of having fun. In aion the only ways you can have fun pvp:
    1: You go solo and find other solo players, best player wins. Impossible/nearly impossible to find in gamezaion. Unless you do arenas.
    2: You can have a group of a few players and go against a few others or even quite a few more. Hard in gamezaion, because you ll get zerged.
    3: You have an alliance and fight against other alliances/zergs. Doable in gamezaion if you can find a legion that does that kind of pvp.

    Here people are like penguins, they mindlessly follow each other to a specific location as long as that location is filled with people. They are just stupid enough not to understand that there's no fun in that. Gamezaion used to have decent pvp in abyss and later on in inggison/gelk/heiron/belu/brust/theo and even twink pvp in eltnen and morheim but now its all gone.. there's little left in heiron and beluslan and that's again most likely zerg vs zerg or a few skilled players vs zerg.. and its a challenge only for very skilled players because dont expect to win that zerg unless you and your mates really know your shit. Id be willing to go back to silentera zerging era than stay in this silly katalam situation, that's how bad it is right now. Id suggest players not to go to katalam until and if ever Carl completely removes the safe zones, all of them. Then im pretty sure that people would find other tight places to play their ping pong but then again some might just go back to inggi and gelk, and if that happens then the population might spread out resulting to a more decent pvp. They need to give incentive to the players to spread out in different maps. If for example they enable drops in the new instances you ll see more players fighting for the entry. Just like what happens when elyos/asmo fight for the tiamaranta fortresses. And if they allow us to kisk in ingg/gelk we might also see some improvement. If people start spreading out, the situation will definitely get better, it is up to the players.

    There are a few things Carl/Alente could do in order to give options to the players, but they certainly cannot change game mechanics or any other major things like that. Aion is what it is so if you dont like getting zerged then go to another map and be wise enough to search for your enemies or go play tetris, its up to you.
     
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  16. cocosul

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    when i m bored by aion i still play broodwar and red alert2 :) these 2 gamez are a MUST on my pc^^ and yeah also sudden strike ...these games relax me a lot:D
     
  17. Stark

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    You guys talk about class balance yet you won't go to Lumiel.

    Please don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to start a Siel vs Lumiel crap.

    Here's what I think.

    You want class balance? (not totally balance but hey, at least it's better. Aion in general has never been balance to begin with) Go Lumiel!

    The common excuses for not going Lumiel:
    - My 'friends' are playing in Siel. Transfer service is not limited. Doesn't matter if you have 500 friends in Siel, you all can transfer if you really want to.
    - 1500 credits is too much (lol, and people spend 2-3k credits for a mere shoulder remodel)
    - Lumiel population is low. Seriously, you haven't been in Lumiel yet you believe the hearsay from other people who are also haven't been in Lumiel at all or haven't been there long enough to believe whatever it is they say about the server. It's all about time zone. Not mention that if you don't start going there, then the population won't really go higher.

    What exactly do we need?

    In my point of view, what we need are:

    - Custom battle grounds. GvG, 1v1 and FFA. The arena that NC Soft made is a total crap not to mention they aren't always open. Why is it crap? Lack of obstacles. Lack of space for proper kiting.

    - Godstones removed. I'm not just talking about the 10% silence and blind godstones. I'm talking about ALL godstones REMOVED. Why? If you remove just the 10% silence and 10% blind godstones then the magic classes gets an overwhelming advantage since magic boost affects damage godstones and magical accuracy and magic resist affects their proc rate as well. Aion itself has luck factor playing bigger role than it already should, why don't we lessen the luck factor for the sake of better PvP?

    - Events that would scatter people all over different maps. Ari's events are a good start. Why don't we scatter those chests in random places? It can also be a mob with an interesting drop that is spawned in random places (of course we'll narrow down the places that are highly to be a good PvP area, not those shitty places near camps/safe zones/towns/forts etc.

    For example: The chest that has a chance to give DDL / Mythical weapon. Increase that chance significantly but here's the catch, the chest will be spawned at a random place and time. It could be anywhere in Eltnen/Morheim or Heiron/Beluslan or Silentra Canyon or Inggison/Gelkmaros or Idian Depths/Katalam/Danaria. With this huge search area, then maybe people from both race will scatter all over Atreia searching for the chest and there goes our scattered PvP

    - Viable incentives from PvPing. If putting an NPC that would sell consumables for Abyss Points is not possible then why not do it this way.. Wipe all the Balaur Serums on the server or any Abyss Item that isn't that important. Now, make this the currency for trading X amount of Abyss item = X type and X amount of consumables. AMs will do the mailing.

    - Motivators. Kill count rank according to class. Battle ground ratings/ranking. Resets monthly or so.

    - Server merge. Lumiel + Siel with stigma system. Please don't say things like "if this happens many people will leave". Here's my answer to that. You seriously think so? With the shitty PvP on both server for so long now, they are still here, you seriously think they will leave just because of this? Another thing, you aren't willing to sacrifice these players who objects a more balanced PvP for players who seeks a better PvP? That doesn't sound reasonable to me at all.

    These are just a few ideas in mind. They are not totally original so please don't say crap like "it's not possible" because I've seen them all from different servers. And I'm pretty sure there are regular players like myself who are more than willing enough to help to make things happen.
     
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  18. cocosul

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    no offence but if i wanted stigma system... gamez wasnt in my top of choices! my main reason is that no stigma system that s why i m still here
     
  19. Stark

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    I think it's a very small price to pay if we'll just lose players like you in exchange for a better PvP, no offense too.

    If you really wanted balance, then you'd play on server with stigma system. Gamez isn't a choice for you? Then please do tell why are you still here despite the unbalances especially in Siel where there is no stigma system and the crappy PvP.
     
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    Most if not all of the lumiel players play on lumiel because of the stigma system. It's a lot more balanced then full stigmas. No fun when you face a sorc with wintry + glacial or a temp that has 5+ heals. I choose lumiel because of the fact it is the stigma system. Certain classes are just way too easy to play/no fun at all with full stigmas.
     
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