Physical Defense - Not right

that's not triroan...

although less attack, that's still not right. p.def is useless...

 

(Aegis):
I don't mind throwing away my forum account, since it doesn't look like I'm going to be here for much longer.
I've said things like this before, nobody had really done anything in the past, I doubt they will now.
I get more infractions for posting in the wrong section by accident or foul language than I do by speaking my mind.

 

Lucky you, i only get infracted for speaking my mind.

 

+1000. p.defence should be useless. Thats how retail MADE IT.

"Useless" is actually a "useful" thing in a sense... that you don't want something to be overly potent. As it is now.

Sort of like brain activity... a large quantity of neurons in the brain are actually inhibitory... many scientists even assumed them to be "useless".

But for an example most of us know, chicken with its head cut off will flap around wildly, why is that? Because these seemingly 'useless' inhibitory connections were removed.

I still feel silly even feeling apprehensive to post. But lets get back onto the topic at hand, offtopic is an infraction that neither of us requires ;p


But for me... criticism is actually welcomed. But that is from the opinion of a doctor, a professional. I personally see criticism and critique and comments on my work useful tools to use. But its apparant that not everyone is even remotely close to my caliber in this world.

 

yeah... not really useless but for every 100 p.def it mitigates 10 damage. so a full abg glad with def preparation could have about 2.5k def not really sure but somewhere around there...which supposed to mitigate around 250~300 damage. with my attack 570+ it's still not right to deal 1~60 damage.

 

Precisely.

So if an assasin skill says it hits 1,900 in the tool description. ... without evne including other things like pvp atk (which is higher than pvp defence for non-shield users for sure!), buffs, etc... then they should hit at worst 1k. And that is a GIANT "I don't feel like calculating this so lets round DOWN (by far).)


That isn't even getting into the fact that attack stat is valued at nearly 100x more than defence.

 

i'm not really sure how the devs came up with their solution that it leads to this kind of shitty damage... now i believe my kid knows better math than them.

 

I can't say I've even met the 3 others that are supposedly helping Evilset.

And I am probably the most linked person in gamez... so I don't know.

But lets not delve into random insults (we all know you'd get an infract for it. So lets avoid that).

 

hopefully the 3 guys your talking about knows good math...

supposedly, "4 brains are better than 1" and should definitely not "4 brains are more than 1".

 

bumping this.

 

well i dunno but last nite pvping on my glad this sin from random legion lol pretty much took half my hp quick. funny i went on my sin and i hit more than u o.o ill make a pvp video but lol my dmg is way more than that o.o my sin has my favorite stock crit of 666 and like 700-800attk o.o somewhere around that

 

You have probably heard of this "login and logout" bug where you gain alot of attack right? That is why some sins are killing pretty much anything they counter.

 

Yea right.

 

that was fix on past updates o.o unless is broken again lol

 

It's broken again .

 

I think the PDef works like it should ... thi thing that is broken is actually FORMULA in combination with PvP mitigation ...

If glad have 2500 pdef > 250 dmg mitigated ... now you have 500 attack stock ....

I have theory, that now the formula works like Dmg * PVPdmgMODS - PDEFFMitigation
so you have your 500 attack * 0,6 ( Assuming you have 30% pvp attack and your prey have 20% pvp deff ) - 250 = cca 50 dmg ... which corresponds with the current situation ....

I THINK ( and I really do, altoutght I have no proofs from retail or whatsoever ) that stuff like block/parry and also psych. deffense should be calculated BEFORE PVPDMGMODS ....

SO it Would look like

(Dmg - PDEFFMitigation ) * PVPdmgMODS

Which now would be

( 500-250 ) * 0,6 = 150 .. which is aprox 200% increase of the "other" value ...

the diference is quite speaking for itself

 

if you compute the damage like i said earlier, 570+ attack vs 2.5k p.def or rather mitigate 250 damage against my attack. it's still in the wrong formula how 570 attack dealing 0~60 damage. even the skills should not deal that low.

mind you the pvp defence is mitigated by my pvp attack.

 

that's probably right how they did it. which is wrong.

if this is fixed, with my attack i should be dealing around 200~400(on crit) damage.

 

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It's definitely bugged, but i'm afraid Devs will breake the whole p.def thing IMO, i mean, if they "fix" it, assassins will do the correct dmg but we'll see gladys hitting us for liek 3k Cleaves, idk though.

 

that should be about right, now it matters on how fast you can put down Glads/Templars. which is a lot better than having this shitty damage.