Sin build?

Dakota Must be rolling on His grave . .. my my..
M.Boost on gamez? LOL
Full M.acc? lol (?)

Get a Hybrid biuld, M.acc / Atk / Crit.
Use dual swords if you want damage yet I'd advice to use dagger x Sword b/c the Crit multiplier, overall speed and Weaving capabilities..

Just that for now.. I'm kinda busy tho D:

 

u will have enough attack speed when u have WOC conditioning using dual swords... and ABG sword has a higher crit chance than abg dagger...

 

You shouldn't laugh at people when you have no idea what you're talking about. Full MA is the only build you should be going if you want to actually kill Full ABG geared players without relying on OOA which has a 5 minute cooldown. I highly advise that you DO NOT go dagger/sword because with Wings of the Circle and an attack speed title+scroll you will be at .9 attack speed with sword/sword. You will have the SAME attack speed using dagger/sword so no, you do not weave better, you do not attack faster. The ONLY thing you gain by going dagger/sword nowadays is 40 more base crit while losing a ton of base damage which gets calculated with your Phy Attack Buffs and your attack speed remains the same.

And as Archvanarl already mentioned, even when Daggers inherently have 40 more crit than swords, ABG sword STILL has more crit than ABG dagger because the dagger has no +crit strike while the sword has +65 Crit Strike. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason you should ever be going dagger/sword nowadays.

 

AGGREE! sword /sword is the way to go. To be honest as far as build you should try all kinds of builds. A build that someone else does not exactly work for everyone. I dont add any MA and i kill just fine in PVP. Find what you like dual people in the temple of gold and see what works. MA might work well for you some even like a HP build and I dont belive anyone should be a critic when it comes to what you like. You may even find yourself liking another class for your play style. I went through all the classes to see where I did my best with.

 

for dual sword, u need 2% atk speed tittle to get max atk speed with WoC otherwise it stays at 1.0
S/S base atk speed is 1.8, cap = 0.9
D/D base atk speed is 1.6, cap = 0.8
D/S base atk speed is 1.7, cap = 0.8

dagger has more crit multiplier than sword. and if u dont know, each weapon has different multiplier dagger has the highest 2.2

 

So you want to trade 25 crit strike and 40 BASE weapon damage(need I remind you base gets calculated into +Phy attack buffs) so that your silly crits do 2.3x damage instead of 2.2x damage and to make the .1 extra crit modifier even more negligible try calculating how much more it gives when strike fortitude of a full abg player is accounted for. I for one do not understand the logic in this, or what point you are trying to make. When going sword/sword you no longer need to take flurry stigma which frees up a stigma slot(extremely important if you actually play on Lumiel)

 

2 ABG sword? lol
ABG sword doesnt has +accuracy option. with 2 ABG swords ur acc is about ~2150.
if i would play a sin. i would like to use ABG dagger + masta sword. 2400+ acc, faster atk speed. but the problem is in gamez, p.def is bugged. so this dual would deal bad dmg. and i believe that strike fortitude is working wrong. a crit hit would never deal lower dmg than a regular hit. in gamez, when a glad buff 2nd wind ( +500 strike fortitude) crit hit deals lesser dmg than a regular hit on him.

 

No point arguing with someone who prefers masta sword over abg sword

 

indeed no point at all cus u really have no brain. ABG is the best but not in all condition.

 

lol . . . .

 

Indeed, lol
It's always funny to see ppl with NO retail experience nor over *at least* 6 months of gameplay Trying to teach someone how to play and choose a build..

Just sayin'.

I won't argue about assassin build since I'm pretty aware how assasssin has to be played along with some stuff most ppl barely care nor know about the class itself, but meh.. why bother..

Go around and ask in Ely side about Morganafactor, same goes for asmo side.
or Perhaps ask the "best" assasssin in Lumiel , Opportunity about me. You'll surprise yourself.

PS. Sorry for the "E-Self Centeredness" moment, I can't kid myself u.u

 

Sorry but those you mentioned aren't the best lumiel sins.
Akiha, Renarch, Vovim, Aing, Kc, Eremes, Azalie (poor guy has high ping though)
forgive me if i missed any but these are the ones which i would consider the better sins. Some dont play anymore though.

More on topic, iv tried sin and i suck with it, but i must say i couldnt imagine playing without a full Macc set for the most and maybe another set if you can afford with atk/crit/Macc.

 

Gorgoth is a good sin also. just sharing :3

 

Ohh nice, i heard he was good, but i have never seen him play so i couldnt comment.

 

He is.

anyway, atm im using full macc and para/para for my sin xD

 

You're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. Raazill is completely right, and that is exactly the best build for a sin. If you didn't know dagger/sword gives you 0.8 atk speed, than you should just quit. Why don't you try dagger/sword + wings of circle with atk speed title? (yes, no need flurry and you get constant 0.8, amazing isn't it?)

Why are you even comparing ABG dagger with ABG sword when your mainhand should be an extendable dagger (unless you're a noob).

 

Opportunity the best assassin? oh lawlzy.. The only assassins that really give me a headache are vovim and akiha, i never played against eremes though but looking at our parties in gelk i think he's quite good too ;>

 

q.q saga not even putting me in the list xD ( even though we talked abot it already) lawl jk

 

Ma full abg + 2x abg sword /w 10% silences
or
Full attack 2x abg sword /w 2x para godstone

 

You're still work in progress.. :whistling: