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Aegis · Jul 25, 2010

Accelerator said: ↑

dunno how Sorc DMG is working here,but in retail i haven't seen more that 10k DMG from full MB buffed Sorc's Lightburst.those skills(Sorc 4k and 2k DP i mean) don't need just lower in DMG,they simply need to be removed from game.there is no way to say in description about 3k+ with the bonus DMG against oposite race of Lightburst and skill hit more than 10k.

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can you precast any buff when you are cc'ed or forgotten in a battle and didn't see Lightburst coming?you think PvP is gonna save you for more than the 10k DMG of Sorc 4k DP?same applied for High Health.you most probably have taken some DMG before the skill so i don't think you'll survive.
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On retail, just recently, they changed all damage that says "does x damage and an additional y damage if the target is an asmodian or a balaur"...

... has the x damage effected by magic boost but the y value is simply added onto the end value after magic boost effect's value x. Therefore the extra y damage (3.5k? pulling the # out of my ass.. think that was the value of additional dmg..) is not impacted by magic boost.

Niburan · Jul 25, 2010

Also, until casting speed is fixed... asmo sorc > elyos sorc in pvp... Boon of quickness is win in pvp. And yes, the playstyles of sorcs are extremely varied... but unless it's an out and out gank.. when it's sorc vs sorc, CC sorc will always win out if both are equally skilled. Since playing retail ever since NA beta.. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've been hit for over 8k with lightburst, highest was 13k just recently in the 1.9 update off a crit. But at the same time, remember most people in retail don't have that high of HP... AP gear is a grind, Fenris/Miragents is a grind and can make you /ragequit if you don't proc hearts for legs. So I think it's pretty well balanced here.

blackend · Jul 26, 2010

I've just finished testing this and have obtained evidence that there is a hard cap on magic boost at 2600 magic boost. This test was prompted because my legionmate noticed that the magic boost on his in-game character profile screen was not exceeding 2600 even when it should have.

So we did a test.

A Sorcerer attacked a Ranger with Flame Bolt V level 7.

Both players were level 50.

Ranger had 0 Fire Resistance, and 0% PVP damage reduction

Sorcerer had 0% PVP damage bonus

The table below shows the damage that was dealt at each magic boost level, and the calculated damage predicted by the magic damage formula shown at the bottom of this post. (The calculated damage for 2600 Magic Boost is also shown for comparison. No in-game test was done using exactly 2600 magic boost)
Magic Boost Actual Damage Calculated Damage
Trial 1: 2311 1067 1067.34
Trial 2: 2611 1155 1158.54
2600 Magic Boost Damage: 2600 ---- 1155.20

The initial attack with 2311 damage dealt the same amount of damage in-game as was predicted by the formula.

The second attack using Zikel's Wisdom to increase magic boost to what should have been 2611, however, did not deal the same actual damage as what was calculated. It DID however deal the same amount of damage as what was calculated for 2600 Magic Boost. This supports the hypothesis that magic boost caps at 2600, but because the expected difference was relatively small, a second trial was done.

In this Trial, the sorcerer had abyss accessories whose PVP damage bonus totaled 6%. All other relevant statistics except Magic Boost were unchanged.
Magic Boost Actual Damage Calculated Damage
Trial 3: 2374 1151 1151.69
Trial 4: 2674 1224 1248.36
2600 Magic Boost Damage: 2600 ---- 1224.51

Here again the actual damage in the sub-2600 magic boost trial was the same as what was predicted by calculations, however, the damage when magic boost was greater than 2600 damage was inconsistent with calculated damage for that amount of magic boost, and consistent with the calculated damage for 2600 Magic Boost.

Conclusion
I thus conclude that there is indeed a magic boost cap at 2600, and that increasing magic boost past 2600 provides no benefit whatsoever.

Calculations
The following formula was used for all values of calculated damage.

Calculated Damage = (Knowledge * 10 + Magic Boost) / 1200 * Calculated Tooltip Damage * 50% * (1 + PVP Damage Bonus)

Calculated Tooltip Damage was obtained using the information in this thread, and was implemented as follows:

Calculated Tooltip Damage = (Base + Delta * Level) * Knowledge / 100
where
Base = 538
Delta = 10
Level = 7
Knowledge = 120

I ommitted the Floor() present in the original version of this formula because removing it provided results which were closer to the in-game results. I thus suspect that listed Tooltip damage values for spells are subject to rounding errors, and that the game uses floating-point values for tooltip damage in its calculations.

Knowledge in all cases was 120, Magic Boost was the amount listed in each trial, and PVP Damage Bonus was 0% for Trials 1 and 2, and 6% for Trials 3 and 4.

TL;DR
Increasing Magic Boost past 2600 has no effect. Don't bother increasing it past 2600.
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