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we ned a good antihack

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by clmzeuss, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. ellacafe

    ellacafe Proficient

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    Well at least you don't proclaim yourself as English grammar expert ;D
    That guy would do that without blinking, lol
     
  2. Fynie

    Fynie Ayyyyeeeeeeeee Forum Legend

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    Well I know a few dev's were talking about this in the past. The only issue with the anti-hack "program" if you may call, will most likely ban players who arn't hacking. Also too many hacks are out now-a-days and it will be hard to have all the hacks configured for the anti-hack.

    So yeah, I dunno whats going to happen. Maybe if people would get a life and think not to hack on a private server and ruin the game for everyone else we would be right, but unfortunately there are still people out there who do :/
     
  3. ellacafe

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    Well when there's a way to cheat,
    there will be always cheaters.
    I'd say to them go play simple RPG with a trainer - no risk, lol.
    But I guess thay feel more superior that way.
    No idea why.
    There's no 'taste' in the game if you know what I mean.


    Anyway could I request for this thread to be closed?:3 pweease
     
  4. vexia

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    we need REVOLUTION !! hahah joking ...
     
  5. icyarrow

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    life is shot, dont waste it being an as*hole.
    That quote fit you lol.
     
  6. ellacafe

    ellacafe Proficient

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    Ty I try my best <3
    I'm sarcastic.
    I mean no harm
    I would've apologized if he said that he feels insulted.
    If you saw the guy was an obvious troll, lol.
    Called himself IA ex GM <.<
    no one said it's bad to troll a troll
     
  7. Georgie

    Georgie Ḏɪ̭̜͓̜ͅs̪ᴛ̩̪͓ᴜ̬̖̗̬ʀ̻͚̖͎ʙ͉̜͓̖͙̼͖̳ᴇ̖̞̻ᴅ̻̞̫̘̫ͅ Forum Legend

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    The thing about hackers will never stop because even if you get a good anti-hack, tomorrow someone will make a hack to get through ...

    Even Nasa got hacked...



    This is life and how the things goes ( ex. You buy an Iphone 4 your happy, its last tech, tomorrow something better will come up.)
     
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  8. tigies

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    dupes should be easy to prevent giving every item an ID and doing a check every day for finding items with the same ID.
    other hacks like speed hack and stuff like that is harder to prevent but not impossible. there are several ways to prevent these hacks but the dev should make a try-error until he finds the answer.

    one (easy) way to prevent hacks is making the launcher to load a DLL that looks for opened process with known hack process names like speedhack and stuff like that. Another (harder) way is doing a DLL (loaded with the launcher, of course) that checks all the process loaded modules (dll's) to see if any process is accessing the game's memory and closing the game if something found.

    the harder way could be a problem with antivirus, but we don't need antivirus to play right?

    someone talked about the delay on casting.
    the delay thingy is more like a memory leak, and i imagine that it's on the thread core not beeing able to close some infinite-loop threads, or lack of memory on creating the stack for such threads causing that delay on casted skills. the dev could take an eye for running threads and look what threads are constantly increasing.
     
  9. Loki

    Loki I am madness and chaos! Forum Legend

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    ..wow..dude, you really know what you're talking about..^^ ..pretty cool!..
    ps: is my engrish suk? LOLS!
     
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    I hope Its you :)
     
  11. Smartik1

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    lol the funny thing is that its 1 person that actually knows what hes doing and the rest uses google :p especially when they see that half the server does it lol

    funny fact: start googling gamez aion, the first suggestion is gamez aion hack :p the sad truth about this heavily hacker infested server
     
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  12. Rodney

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    BSSZZZZTT! Wrong! xD
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    Edit: nvm, you were talking bout this
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    yeah I agree becoz I've been duped only once, even though Fynie retrieved my items back, I still have that trauma in my mind that if I trade I might get duped again... T_T
     
  14. Earkiss

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    yes indeed we badly need 1 good antihack ass
     
  15. imperfectangel06

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    so true..haha this isnt the post for infinite aion...lol
     
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    haha so right GM...but how bout putting a game gaurd.?can that help.? because ive been dupe too..and now that im banned of eing accuse as me the scammer while i was the one who is scammed...if the GM aprove my prof id be scared if ill be dupe again and ill lost all for the second time that i will be dupe..T_T
     
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    just like what Smartik said, duping is NOT a hack, it's a bug being abused. Gameguard is only good against hacks.
     
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    Anti-hack system is not so easy to implement... you need to find what's the vulnerability of the server/client and how the application use it.
    And about game guards they supposed to run on client side so they are easy to bypass.

    although it's easy to fix the no-animation that ruins the server atm!
     
  19. Vladiimir

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    wow, this problem seems to be easy for him. For me if that would be just simple like what you've said, I guess we don't need to argue anymore for this case right? I think "Its way better to hear an action than just a talk".
     
  20. PetromaniaC

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    Mhm.. Finally! Someone with a Brain who agrees with Me...
    Duping is definitely NOT a Hack. The Stackables Duping Bug , is caused by the Item Safety System of NCSoft's Stupid Clients which is supposed to prevents your items from disappearing. But the Non-Stackables Scamming Bug has Nothing to do with it..
    This Scamming Bug works in Lineage II too...

    But the official NCSoft servers don't have coding problems , here our devs don't know sh1t about coding... so every bug works in gamez.


    Let me explain.
    To dupe stackables you had to:
    1) If you had 100 Potions for example , you had to Split all but one into another Square (make 2 squares , one with 99 and one with 1)
    2) Trade with Someone , Place the 1 Item , then Drag the 99 And Drop them on the 100 (Merge them , make them 100) , then accept
    By doing that , u were keeping 99 and your friend was taking 99.
    3) Your friend's Potions were Real but yours were not , Yours were just visual. You had to place them in the warehouse to make them real. Or you could use them in a trade instead , put them in a trade with someone and once he'd accept , they would just disappear (that's why u were not taking the items after accepting someone's trade)

    Now splitting items while trading or even merging them (putting 1 stackable on another) is disabled so you can't dupe.
    Though i found a way to dupe like a month ago but it also got fixed.

    You could Shift + Drag an item , make 2 squared (with 99 and 1)
    Then Shift + drag the 99 and put on the 1 BUT not clicking "ok" on the window that asks how many items u want to move , just type 99 in the box and wait.
    Then trade with someone
    Once trade opens press ok to that "how many items do you wish to move" window and they get merged together. (100)

    But as i mentioned , that got fixed too.


    NOW the Non-stackables scamming trick has to do with 2 trades. I cannot tell you more because i'll be revealing part of the bug but my suggestion is: Tell the person to relog before he does a trade and make sure he is not close to anyone (though he could use an invisible assassin with the hide bug and simply do it.. that's a problem too)


    I gave my account to a friend btw , just in case u're wondering why im telling u all this.
    I'm not playing anymore in gamez and my friend isn't either , our accounts are useless :eek: we just use the forum now , sometimes.


    @Vladimiir

    Action from who? our developers? Funny!
    It took them 4 months to find out how to prevent the stackables from being duped...
    And believe me , this non-stackables bug is a damn pain in the ass to fix even for an expert.
    You have to
    1) Prevent the players from trading/sending mails/etc to persons who got the same IPs with them
    2) Put a system that's gonna alert u when an account is being used by more than 1 IP
    3) Put a system that will prevent people from using game proxies etc (tho they can change their IPs and that's why im saying system that alerts when a second IP uses the account)
    4) Fix the Assassins' Hide Bug
    5) Make some files server-based not client-based (which is gonna cause huge lags)

    And the list goes on..

    And that would only fix it partially.
     
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