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Who Are You!?

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Khallarion, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Deadlychants

    Deadlychants Rainbow kittens Forum Legend

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    You never gave us your answer as to "Who you are"
     
  2. ngjunhoong

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    i might say :eek:

    the cause of life is the sins of man
     
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    hmm.... aha. definitely not you.. ^^
     
  4. Khallarion

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    But everything unravel,

    Where we arrived!?
     
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    I know that I am the me that exists as of now. Everything else is irrelevant, I need not be a state of the mind or a physical presence to represent myself so long as I exist and the soul I posess be true, I can not be discarded.

    I am an entity made to love and be loved and cherish the transient moments of today as they are buried into yesterdays and turn into the tomorrows that I lay asleep dreaming for.

    To need not an explination is the beauty of the simplicity of life, and in that essence is the gratitude that we can take what is as it being. And as such I am me so much more as I exist and am.
     
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  6. Khallarion

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    Yes, I will! But maybe some people can't understand, because of that I'm asking a lot of things and answer with other questions!
     
  7. Deadlychants

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    Yeah, it makes an atomic explosion.

    But it's in the name of science, so it's cool
     
  8. Khallarion

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    Ah! Nice one too! But you still give me perceptions about you, but not who you are...

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    Nobody just said: "Energy!" Interesting!

    But energy, is just a result...but what is energy!? xD

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    Ok ok, I will answer the question!

    We can never tell what is truth, because all things are mere labels that can not express the truth in its vastness.

    Everything is made of parts, all parts make labels. These labels are mere perceptions, but are not the truth. Everything we are, everything we think is made up of parts, so they are mere labels. If you affirm or deny, you're falling into a trap.

    If you search "who you are" you should not deny or affirm, and should not see nor understand.

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    Everything we see and are is a label that is not you, are parties to pass an idea to create an image only. If you dismember yourself noticing that you and others and the universe are but labels, same thing.
     
  9. Deadlychants

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    If nothing is true, then how are we to find validity in your theory?
     
  10. Khallarion

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    We're all the same, there is no difference between us and Unvierso, the universe is in us and vice versa, the Universe is here not far away and these are all images ... as said, you never find the truth to seek it in impermanent things.

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    Because I do not deny nor affirm, because I know that affirm or deny whether I fall into a trap...I know that me, my mind and answer are just an attemp to show what is hiden...as you try to show me in your post...

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    A Buddhist proverb says: We can say everything that is not the True, but never what It is.

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    Because if we do that, we will fall again and again in a trap! Because all is just conceptions of our mentality...But if you see that you can't deny or affirm...you can't fall in a trap.

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    Shunyata

    Shunyata (Tib. stong-pa-nyid, Chin. kung),usually translated as "emptiness", "voidness", "nothingness", or even "relativity", is a key technical and philosophical term in the Mahayana Buddhist tradition.
    This is a difficult term, usually translated as "Void" or "Emptiness", but sometimes more positively as "Openness". The philosophical nuances of this term are complex. Emptiness must not be understood as simple nihilism (the denial that anything exists), much less as referring to some absolute entity that underlies appearance. Rather, things are "empty" in the sense of lacking independent, persistent existence.
    In the Buddhist scholar H. V. Guenther's words: "the technical term shunya indicates the "open dimension of being". The customary translations by "void" or "emptiness", fail to convey the positive content of the Buddhist idea" [1].
    While according to T. R. V. Murti [2], the terms shunya and shunyata are used in two allied meanings.
    • (a) All phenomena are shunya (void, empty), as they are relative and so lack substantiality and independent reality; they are conditioned by and depenedent on other phenomena (this is the Buddhist theory of Pratitya-samutpanna or "dependent origination") and hence in themselves ultimately unreal.
    • (b) The Absolute Reality is shunya or shunyata, as it is devoid of empirical forms and thought constructs, no predicate ("is", "not-is", "is and not-is", neither "is nor not-is") can legitamately be applied to it.
    For an in-depth philosophical discussion, see Francis Streng, Emptiness: A Study in Religious Meaning (Abingdon Press, 1975) (unfortunately out of print).
    Ultimately shunyata is a phenomenological term for the experience of the Absolute Reality. The Absolute Reality is the experience of total freedom from the distortion and limitations of conceptual understanding (vikalpa), it is "empty" or "void" of all such particular characteristics. This Shunyata, according to the great 2nd Century Buddhist dialectician Nagarjuna, can only be described in terms of a paradoxical series of negations. So for example in Absolute Reality (Shunyata) there is neither Movement nor non-Movement nor both Movement and non-Movement nor something other than Movement and non-Movement. Reality embraces all, includes all and transcends all.
     
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    Just so I get it right, your answer to "Who I am"

    Is that you don't know? And that nobody can know? =p
     
  12. Khallarion

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    references
    [1] Herbet V. Guenther, The Tantric View of Life, p.150 (Shambhalla, Boulder & London, 1975)

    [2] T. R. V. Murti, [​IMG] The Central Philosophy of Buddhism, p.349 (Unwin Paperbacks, London 1955/1980)
     
  13. regiix3

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    'You' has no real definition. It could be the person you're talking to. It could be the person with you. Or it could be a person you're about to make babies with. but, You = ?
     
  14. Khallarion

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    Read the last post, please! Will express better what I tryed to say!

    Unfortunally my English is not so good, so I needed to take the answer in the meaning of Shunyata.
     
  15. Kisra

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    u r asking who am i

    human the first class creation of god on this earth

    and the only creation on this earth have sane mind and this bless by god

    who is god for me he is the the one Almighty the one who dont sleep the one that cant be counted as a creation and if u ask what he looks like where he is i will say u cant see him or knows where he is coz this will make him part of the creation
     
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    :O I dont believe in gods. I believe in the Evolution and the Big bang theory :D
     
  17. Khallarion

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    God is just one definition, an ancient definition to explain the Essence of The Unvierse and the Big Bang is just one definition to explain the Creation...nothing more but the same thing...cause and consequence...

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    And both walk together to explain the meaning of the life!

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    Just for answer quickly>

    Shunyata

    Shunyata (Tib. stong-pa-nyid, Chin. kung),usually translated as "emptiness", "voidness", "nothingness", or even "relativity", is a key technical and philosophical term in the Mahayana Buddhist tradition.

    This is a difficult term, usually translated as "Void" or "Emptiness", but sometimes more positively as "Openness". The philosophical nuances of this term are complex. Emptiness must not be understood as simple nihilism (the denial that anything exists), much less as referring to some absolute entity that underlies appearance. Rather, things are "empty" in the sense of lacking independent, persistent existence.

    In the Buddhist scholar H. V. Guenther's words: "the technical term shunya indicates the "open dimension of being". The customary translations by "void" or "emptiness", fail to convey the positive content of the Buddhist idea" [1].

    While according to T. R. V. Murti [2], the terms shunya and shunyata are used in two allied meanings.
    • (a) All phenomena are shunya (void, empty), as they are relative and so lack substantiality and independent reality; they are conditioned by and depenedent on other phenomena (this is the Buddhist theory of Pratitya-samutpanna or "dependent origination") and hence in themselves ultimately unreal.
    • (b) The Absolute Reality is shunya or shunyata, as it is devoid of empirical forms and thought constructs, no predicate ("is", "not-is", "is and not-is", neither "is nor not-is") can legitamately be applied to it.
    For an in-depth philosophical discussion, see Francis Streng, Emptiness: A Study in Religious Meaning (Abingdon Press, 1975) (unfortunately out of print).

    Ultimately shunyata is a phenomenological term for the experience of the Absolute Reality. The Absolute Reality is the experience of total freedom from the distortion and limitations of conceptual understanding (vikalpa), it is "empty" or "void" of all such particular characteristics. This Shunyata, according to the great 2nd Century Buddhist dialectician Nagarjuna, can only be described in terms of a paradoxical series of negations. So for example in Absolute Reality (Shunyata) there is neither Movement nor non-Movement nor both Movement and non-Movement nor something other than Movement and non-Movement. Reality embraces all, includes all and transcends all.

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    Topic ended! xD

    Please do not accept if as the Unviersal truth, until you find truth in my answers.
     
  18. Kisra

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    i believe too in the big bang and i believe too god mad it

    but the evolution nah coz from the first human until now nothing new changes unless u have powers or third eye i will believe ^_^
     
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    Im just a bunch of star dust with a soul.
     
  20. Nujabes

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    Hmm, nice topic.

    What I am is an absolute energy of knowing. I am the Ying as I am the Yang, I cannot be one without the other. I'm neither good, bad, kind or cruel, but I am also all of that.

    What am I, who am I? Im an infinite possibility, I am simple is. ​

    I'm not my body, but I am a design. I do not think, nor do I carry thoughts, I am the practitioner of the Matrix, the observer of this absolute energy of knowing.

    I cannot hold a truth as I question this Matrix to the very end, but I shall not die, I'll simply return to the promise land of knowing with my own truth to what I really am.

    What am I? Who am I? I am a question of the Matrix and the answer of Knowing.​
     
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