Sharps and Hards

You f&%£$ right! Let's make boats (or beds)! o.o

And sure, i'll cuddle you every day and give you sharps and HARDS...especially HARDS though x'''D.

 

@Lareldal @Noyah

Have a word with Bannan. Thank you.

 

Just from what I've seen in the forum you probably deserved it. And I didn't need to see much to make that statement.

 

oh u got mad ? beacuse noone is really life skilling here and your argument turn out to be bullshit?

 

Just because someone is telling the inconvinient truth doesn't mean that he deserve a ban of any sort. But i see, that's how it works in this community, where if you even try to speak your mind you got insulted and blocked/banned by the mods, GJ democracy.

 

About? So far most things being stated are claims without ground which give no possibility of applying a discussion around it.

I am not a staff member. Thats why I can speak my unfiltered mind about topics and therefore can also be criticized the same way. I am responding to the thread starter in mind of his feedback of given answeres concerning the topic. Debate resonable and so will I.

No I did not. You clearly lack the skills to properly communicate with other human beings. The best way for you to have your question or idea being discussed is to get in touch with the staff team which will give you direct feedback. Over here your lack of social skills will cause any discussion being started from you to end up unanswered and neglectable for the staff team due to an unorganized mess of meaningless claims and a high hostility towards the participants of the discussion being held.

Communities are not democratic. You don't vote for your leadership neither for their goals. All you do is give them suggestions which they can take in consideration.

 

But you have tried to prove that lifeskilling is a thing on the server and adding hards / sharps drop to grinding mobs will kill it, and i have proved that it's nothing else then lies beacuse noone rly care about lifeskills on this server

 

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Never said it would. I was talking about balance.

When?

 

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD yeah they're forced to gather for hards and sharps, ask them if they would do it if they didn't had to

and what drop from mosters have to do with gathering? if he rly like that he'll do it anyway

 

What does that have to do with the discussion?

No they are not. They are using one way of obtaining them.

Nobody would pay taxes if they didn't have to. Keeps the state you live in running though.

They'll do. Just we'll have the same discussion for lifeskills. If combat recieves a buff why wouldn't lifeskilling?

 

The other way to get them is via RBF..
To efficiently (while having a bit of fun) do RBF you need at least full TET.
To have full TET you need hards/sharps.
So you need to gather for them. There's not exactly another way to get them..

 

But you said that problem is with this poor life skillers that wont have any chance to profit or w/e the lifeskillers do or there's gonna be some kind of economy disaster ? welp there already is.

 

If you don't even know what I was talking about do not question it. Make yourself aware of what I was explaining first.

You lack game knowlege.

No, only if you focus on one specific aspect of the game. All game mechanics work along side. Especially the economy. Currently the flaws are due to bugged or not implemented features which makes certain activities unefficient. Different topic though.

 

Then, pls, tell me what i'm missing. I'm kinda struggling at the moment =/.
I never saw an mmo community where the players are so jealous and mean about the "secrets" of the game.
"Because if everybody would do that, bla bla bla..."
Then it's a fault of the game which MUST be correct. Every player have to have the same opportunity to progress, or it will become just toxic, as already is on retail, btw..

 

It's all public. Find a way that suits you: http://bddatabase.net/us/item/4998/

 

Nice, perfect.
But it's nothing new to me, lol.
Salvaging some accessories--> already know this.
Gathering -----------------------> same as above.
Patrigo --------------------------> same as above.

Let's add the RBF option available on this server.
SO...solid options are basically the 2 we already listed before and at the start of this thread. Sure, the other but much less solid option is to heat accessories, you're right, i didn't mentioned it before Dx. But, again, it's not a solid option, given the fact that you need to grind A LOT (the yield is 1-2 stones per accessory, wich is 10 to 20 per hour? Sooo...not that many) and all the decent spots are always full or the mobs are not enough for everybody.

 

Gear progression goes along with all game mechanics. Making one supreme establishes a meta which makes the game static. What you want is an dynamic environment to give activities the right balance so that there is as many viable options as possible.

PvE has different viabilities and advantages over lifeskills.

Since we are not only talking about basic balancing but changing fundamentals of the game, making a change is not as easy, neither considerable in the current version of the game. To change fundamentals you need to build an entire new frame of the game. Since the current frame is still a work in progress doing a fundamental rework of it causes more trouble than anything. More work, more consideration, more rewriting, more theorycrafting, more playtesting.

I am sure once a solid frame of the game has been established, fundamental changes it to improve the player experiance will be of consideration. For now the majority of work should be put into the establishment of it. Maybe some quality of life updates like the discord bot. Do not force change you don't know the outcome of. Making a wrong move is vital to the server integrity.

No matter what the devs do the community will never be happy as a whole. There is always the few that dislike some point in the system. And that is fine. I complain all the time.

 

How you want to establish activity that noone does ? We are forced to gather beacuse there's not a single way of getting as much hards/sharps as gathering. You need to spend like 30hrs of getting knowledge just to gather efficiently, more and more waste of time on useless activities that bring 0 fun to the game, it's not enough ? drop rate of shaprs compared to hards is just ... pathetic , demand for blackstones / hards / sharps is pretty fucking high and i can't get it why with so high rates they are not on the market for the whole time ?

We're getting too much mem fragments compared to stones, that's just funny, there isn't any balance at all.
I even wouldnt mind buying them from market, BUT I DONT WANT TO SPEND THERE 5HRS JUST TRYING TO BUY SOME

 

Pretty subjective.

Instead of making a suggestion like "Make memory fragments exchangeable" you're still holding onto your fundamentally changing idea which is unthoughtful in its implementation. You got a point here, due to the high drop rates of scroll parts we do have too few hard/sharps. Making memory fragments exchangeable would change that slightly without touching the balance too much. 6:1 or 9:1. It would then be a reward for an activity and not another item in an item pool.

Pretty subjective.